100% BOTF XXX: STEWARD STRIKES BACK PART 2 - EVIL WINS

[Kelsier]

But

[Kelsier]

@May

If you are not evil you have to tell us

@guavagudetama If you are not evil you have to tell us if you even see this message

[Chomps]

i claime tinker

[Chomps]

I’ve already said it many times over the last few days

[IcetFeelsPain]

You should tinker yourself now!!!

[Kiiruma]

But Icet, you already did!

[carbonated]

hey hope you’re ok

[carbonated]

is there an updated votecount somewhere (too lazy to find)

[Kiiruma]

Sure.
The current votecount is…

1 vote on Nuto.
And that’s it.

[Zugzwang]

Kiiruma being a helpful outed evil player nya nya nya

[Kiiruma]

I’m helpful as any alignment.

[Zugzwang]

@Lotte

I passed physical education by technicality.

I did PE online and therefore skipped a lot of the actual PE

[Zugzwang]

mmmmmmmmmm
to play devil’s advocate again …

@crazynuto

We can whisper! Would you like to?

/whisper @Chomps

If you’d make it that is.

@crazynuto

/break

That was a good whisper. Nice and efficient.

I can, in theory, argue this extra attention to the whisper indicates w/w.

The timestamps of Chomps accepting the whisper (XX:37:46) and Nuto breaking it (XX:45:22) also don’t seem particularly efficient, supposing that the only thing they would exchange is claims. If they were w/w, though, then it would indeed have been an efficient whisper.

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@crazynuto

Good meowning fellow townspeople. I’m glad to say I wasn’t eaten during the night.

@Jarek

Steward You start knowing 1 good player.

I probably shouldn’t come outright and say this, but this is most likely a lie!

I was the cannibal, happily munching on carbonated’s corpse, and I learned that Magnus is a good player! Which means carbonated is the Steward.

There is a world where carbonated was a minion and Magnus could be bad/good. There’s also a world where I’m poisoned.

Regardless, Jarek is probably not the Steward.

This was was read (and still reads) to me as pure. It does occur to me now though, that it’s a bit odd Nuto’s wording of “Regardless” implies Jarek is not the Steward, even in worlds where Carbonated is a Minion or Nuto is poisoned - these don’t really follow. One could argue this is TMI, I suppose, but it’s a minor wording issue at the end of the day… (if we had more time, I would ask Nuto to expand on their reasoning before posting this)

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@crazynuto

With this info we can also assume that last night’s kill wasn’t a Godfather.

I had this idea in my head that the Ojo was going to pick the cannibal, and I was going to die as a result. That’s sorta why I didn’t defend myself when I was nominated, because if I looked suspicious and still died it would’ve helped narrow down the demon.

So unless the Assassin killed, we probably don’t have a Summoner game?

If I wish to wolfread this, I can argue that the explanation of why he didn’t defend himself comes off as excessively self-aware or overexplainy. I would likely make the same post as town, though, to make my thought processes clear.

@Jarek

In literally every BOTF I’ve played claims I’ve gotten even in 3f3’s have been complete lies, it’s hard to solve the game as a good player when the only info I get given the entire game is lies and no info to go with them and then on D5 I’m told that the game was solved and I just need to believe the person telling me they figured it out

@crazynuto

What’s wild is I trust you [Jarek] for once lmao.

There’s an argument this is TMI, I guess. Not that I will likely be around to analyze the response, but should anyone else be willing: @crazynuto why did you trust Jarek here?

:joy_cat:

@crazynuto

I’d like to Occam’s Razor this at least, for now.

Unless you’re the Summoner and make me the Demon, that I’d be definitely okay with. (Please don’t do this haha jk…unless?)

[Zugzwang]

What’s annoying here is… this isn’t stuff that I actually wolfread, for the most part, but it’s stuff that I could see as being construed as wolfy by some people. And it’s stuff that has a high chance of being a wolftell, if Nuto is a wolf…

[Zugzwang]

the other thing is, that realistically I know that if I continued analyzing further, I would likely either conclude it’s more likely to be Lotte (which is already where we’re going today, should no one interfere) or I’d weakly conclude otherwise, without arguments that make me confident enough to push against consensus

[Chomps]

@Zugzwang

should no one interfere

yea it’s not like we can coordinate to get 4 votes or anything

[Silviu200530]

Hey, I am here I wasn’t doing okay today but I’m back

[Zugzwang]

@Chomps

yea it’s not like we can coordinate to get 4 votes or anything

I mean, it’s possible of course
realistically no one’s gonna try to move off Lotte though (unless Lotte is the Demon and evils try to lift off at the last moment)

[Silviu200530]

I still have no idea what Ki is doing

[Silviu200530]

Ughhhhh wait I will be back again