obviously no ‘verified expert’ has ID’d it yet when it’s twitch streamer news that came out an hour ago
and yes “everywhere” is obviously going to have people that will witch hunt hasan and also defend him regardless of what evidence is shown
an investigation needs to take place but if he has actually shocked her he’s definitely psycho
and at best he’s a total creep that’s done all of this for clout
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it’s like the stanford prison experiment but with selection criteria that excludes me in particular
Okay, he claimed it was an air tag collar with a vibration option. She got up and he admitted he made it vibrate for her to stay in place (he doesn’t say this in the clip but then talks about it later on). He then sounds exasperated, explains that she isn’t normally allowed to roam the house, and has a more structured routine. He also comments that she’s “being a baby” which, if we assume he’s not a psychopath, does make sense if it was a vibration as opposed to a shock. Hasan also looks back at her while she’s sitting on the bed which would not be that surprising if what he said was straightforwardly true.
I think the cynical reading of “he wants the dog on stream for views” is sort of dumb given that clip. Idk what the deal is with keeping her in there, but I buy that it’s part of some weird discipline/training thing. Like the frustration in the clip is consistent with someone who has come back from vacation and their dog isn’t behaving the way they expected them to after a caretaker spoiled them. I don’t like this per se, but I do get a strict vibe here rather than an abusive one.
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need to study collars so I can get a collar profession soon 
Oop looks like he is a fucking psycho with a cartoonishly evil button
Since it’s PRESUMABLY not a shock collar I’ll withdraw my comment of the chair for now but definitely jail
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Nah as I’ve just said I think the “he’s doing it for clout” or whatever viewpoint is just deeply cynical. It’s just not consistent with his behavior in the clip at all.
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open cookie thread
people talking about shock collars
see you next week
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we should give every major twitch streamer a big red button that shocks another random major twitch streamer
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As someone who was in a household with a large dog that was more or less untrained and had no discipline, I’m less quick to judge because it was irresponsible for my dad to raise that dog that way. We couldn’t bring people over to the house. We had to literally lock him on the pool deck when family came over that wasn’t around him while he was a puppy. He was a sweet dog, but he was 150 lbs of muscle and was way too aggressive and did not listen. I don’t know why Hasan doesn’t want Kaya to roam around the house, but being really active in the training of a big dog is at least nominally responsible. I’m more concerned about keeping her in the same room than I am him issuing commands remotely via vibration.
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not with a collar or anything just surgically implant the shock thing into their body
Yes I agree
I saw the clip of him reacting to the drama and he said his dog is one of the best trained dogs of the world and he kept boasting about how well shes trained. I agree theres no conclusive evidence its a shock collar. At worst/best, i think hes a weird pet owner, i havent seen people be this strict. Im not a pet owner and i dont clutch my pearls for pets, im apathic because there are so much worse pet owners that bodily harm their pets much worse. I think Hasan isnt just a political streamer, afaik he also peddles with drama, so karma i suppose shrug
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is it also karma when the bulgarian mafia show up at your door 
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Being part of the bulgarian mafia was the dream of every highschool boy in my class. One of my classmates did get involved in it and nearly got killed for it
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still not top 10 worst pet owner to stream on twitch, this seems massively overblown
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Why would it be karma for tutuu to show up at their own house?
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Something being the lesser evil doesn’t make it any less evil!!
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we also shouldn’t be using a logarithmic scale for morality probably.
I knew a guy with a dog that had a shock collar on. Like I already didn’t really like this guy and still don’t, but when he said it was the only thing that stopped the dog from literally running into traffic, idk. My opinion went from “what an asshole” to “I don’t like it, but at least it sounds like there was a compelling reason”, and he took the dog with him everywhere. Hell, it was at the party where I met him, and it was really friendly and admittedly well trained. He was really proud of his dog, and was always affectionate towards it. So again I don’t like it, but I would be uncomfortable saying this guy was abusive or doesn’t love that dog.
Didn’t Logan Paul kill his pet pig
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