26262nd poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 9)

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#10867

can you say something about mahjong

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#10868

Mahjong causes great damage to the human spirit without a single benefit

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#10869

Yes?
It’s, like, five minutes of coding.

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#10870

Five minutes of coding compared to like two minutes of typing numbers to multiply???

#10871

Well, you have the additional ability to change things as you wish.
You want to increase the game size? Make it so that town is more likely to vote mafia? Make it so that mafia is more likely to vote mafia? You aren’t starting from scratch.

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#10872

I’m genuinely confused here like doing manual EV calculations for mafia is really easy, enough that you can type out the calculations in the forum post trivially, and doing monte carlo simultions requires more time and more specialised knowledge and has more room for error

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#10873

I find it easier to do, but I’m also fairly used to throwing similar things together.

#10874

But that’s not what’s trying to be done here… that’s like a different scope from what’s happening… it’s not a “why not just monte carlo it” it’s a “why not do something that’s more work to get a broader result” and the answer is really simple (“it’s more work”)

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#10875

Guy Who Only Does Monte Carlo Simulations: Why not just Monte Carlo it?

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#10876

Basically.

#10877

Only tool is a hammer.

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#10878

well it works for the most important problem: how to kill another individual

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#10879

On the topic of Monte Carlo simulations, my dad was talking to me about how he coded one up to calculate how much he needs to save for retirement.

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#10880

see with some people you feel the need to ask why they’re like this, but with ash it’s abundantly clear

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#10881

  1. i absolutely do not know how to do that

  2. even if i did know how to do that, changing the probabilities of certain in-game events depends on assumptions about player behavior i don’t have. like, how much more likely is town to vote scum over random chance? i have no idea!

EV is imperfect but as a quick and dirty representation of game outcomes it’s fine. the main important thing to know is that in nightless games towns tend to outperform EV, because without a factional kill mafia have no way to get rid of players who obvtown themselves

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#10882

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@YoubutWorse spotify pushing ur agenda

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#10883

god bless

this is the type of stuff thatll get me to switch over to spotify

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#10884

esp bc im only catching up on the ghostmachine stuff like. a day late. youtube told me NOTHING. it should know better

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#10885

this kinda feels @May core?? unsure

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#10886

youtubie youbie

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