26829th poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 11)

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#23190

I agree with this take - video games simply do not provide the same social event-ness / collaborative storytelling aspect that TTRPGs deliver in spades.

But it is an interesting question to answer as a designer, since a notable number of d20 systems have combat baked into so many of the rules. I think what draws me into pathfinder 2e’s design is that, while yes it does have intricate combat rules and is a higher complexity, I think they help feed into both the player fantasy ends as well as the “collaborative” ends - the system heavily rewards working as a team rather than as 4-5 separate islands, and you can generally translate the RP vision of the character into mechanics very easily.

Iunno, I find this quite satisfying.

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#23191

i can play BG3, sure, but can i do it every tuesday night at brian’s house with the rest of the crew?

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#23192

I mean unless the crew is more than 4 people total you can

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#23193

But yeah

Social event, feels good

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#23194

That does make sense
To me its always been like, if i wanted to play a wargame or a turn based tactical rpg id do that, if i wanted to roleplay thats what ttrpgs are for
But i do get it as a social hangout thing tbh

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#23195

I did also mean roleplay as something you usually only get out of ttrpgs tbf

Like yeah you can roleplay your Tav as being x thing in baldur’s gate but it isn’t quite the same yanno?

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#23196

On an unrelated note I keep getting paizo ads now

Paizo I get it but I do not have the budget to buy books rn

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#23197

True

#23198

Ya i agree with that
But thats what i mean by like, if i wanted combat id go play a video game, if i wanted rp id play a ttrpg

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#23199

I’ve got nothing to do might as well peek for a few seconds

#23200

probably not watching the whole thing

#23201

d20 system tables have convinced themselves that a session must have a requisite level of combat or else they’ll instantly explode

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#23202

the amount of people i’ve met that treat LGS games as ‘video game thus DM should be focused on entertaining me’ is insane

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#23203

it is

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#23204

also new dms having 8 players
why would you williingly torture yourself this way

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#23205

5e is dogshit

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#23206

Its dogshit but also everyone knows it so its good

Daggerheart my beloved though…

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#23207

it is still spectacular at lying to the players that the system is good
this is a genuine positive because it is a ttrpg system don’t ask me to elaborate on this

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#23208

I think the majority of 5e players haven’t read the book at all

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#23209

this is anecdote but I think my experience having played dozens of different tables has showed this to be the case

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