27772nd poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 10)

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#23813

No

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#23814

no

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#23815

And the implied elaboration: Is it ever bad? If so, where’s the line? Is Luddism ever justified?

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#23816

yes
when it hurts more people than it helps

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#23817

no lol

if it gets to the point where it starts seriously impacting the workforce just implement UBI

but literally the ideal world is UBI + all busywork is automated

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#23818

Hm. I generally find people tend to think this question is obvious in the abstract but don’t tend to agree in specific situations, but maybe it’s different people also

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#23819

If you font have other systems or its important that it not be automated

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#23820

When is it important for something not to be automated

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#23821

I guess part of it is automation often inherently means a drop in quality, which people don’t take into account when asked this question in the abstract

#23822

I think “creative work” specifically?
That gets heralded as the ultimate goal for humanity, the whole point of automating things away being to enable us to pursue those kinds of things, and I know I personally value creative expression quite highly.

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#23823

When human life/welfare is at risk

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#23824

Is replacing, like, artisan chair-crafters with shitty mass-produced plastic chairs okay? Is it good?

#23825

i also disagree with your soprano 1 and 2 parts entirely but hey

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#23826

I’m finding it rather hard to narrow that down past an abstract “creative work”.

#23827

i think invention is required to be hyman too as long as the thing being invented isn’t needed right now

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#23828

I think one could consider that as “creative work”, something someone’s doing not because it makes them money but because they intrinsically want to do that.

#23829

we already have all that

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#23830

Well, people ar ebuying chairs because they need a chair, the people buying the chairs generally don’t consider a chair to be creative work. But somebody making chairs might. There’s an art to carpentry/woodcarving. But it’s ultimately mostly a practical concern.

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#23831

If shitty mass-produced chairs allow somebody to have chairs instead of sitting on the floor, is the automation bad? Even though it takes away somebody’s craft, somebody’s creative work?

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#23832

@Ash btw hmu whenever you have time to watch a new show btw, have a rec im like 99.9% sure would be right up ur alley

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