27772nd poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 10)

in a purely capitalist world i would heavily advise for a different medium, or just doing basic pixel art or what have you

but if you exclude all of that somehow it’s probably fine but also takes away from the whole

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Cause IDK my key thing with automation is that, like, people talk about it like there’s a finite number of Stuff Which Must Be Done, and that automation prevents a human from Doing That Stuff. And so if you automate aspects of art, that means humans must do Grunt Work Instead

But that’s just… like, not true? Automating parts of creative work can allow there to be more creative work, and I think the perspective that it’s a zero-sum situation is strange and I see it a lot

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I mean at risk of assuming similarity to people and/or debeloping an absurd position

Wr can also imagine a version where the art was not automated & say that was automated away

there is better realistic alternatives that are inherently blocked by the question because they have to be

We can imagine both versions. If you want to say that one version is irrelevant, you have to argue that it never happens

I didn’t intend for this to get into a debate about specifically AI art, I meant it more in a broad “is it better to have more, less-hand-crafted things, or fewer, more-hand-crafted things”

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theres 8 billion people on earth that’s not really massive

Like I was talking about chairs earlier. That wasn’t a metaphor. Is it bad that our chairs aren’t hand-crafted anymore? Is it more bad than having fewer chairs?

but i’d prefer things with more heart than things with less, even if the things with less heart would be more plentiful

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I mean to a point you generally want more things than quality (e.g. not having enough chairs is bad even if theyre really cool chairs)

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See that’s what I’m trying to ask. Sorry for the initial question not being fully clear on what implications of automation I was talking about

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I’m very much a practical person and I like having more shitty chairs. I think it’s good to mass-produce things even if it means they’re worse on average because I like when there’s lots of stuff. But I know a lot of people don’t agree

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Like once there are enough [thing] to fulfill the requisite (& maybe extra) amount needed so that everyone can [function] then you start caring about quality

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Some chairs are really bad though

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i’m only gonna live for so long
i want what i see to be good

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atlas, your question

dammit i was distracted one second

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I want to see lots of things. I want to live in a world where stuff is abundant. And I like seeing good things, but if they’re rare and not everybody can afford them then I’m not gonna see them anyway

I think chairs are a bad example because of floor but not everyone shares the vision

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thats going a lot more into capitalism than previously thought, however

See this is the high-level philosophical disagreement I was trying to poke at

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