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pay for chatgpt?

isnt that shit free

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yes but you get more stuff with the paid version so i use the paid version

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yeah i mean personally there are a lot of subscriptions i would pay for before i ever paid for chat gpt in its current state

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especially when i can do everything ive ever wanted to with it without ever being prompted to pay up

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and if that changed I suspect my solution would not be ā€œpay upā€ but would instead be ā€œfind an alternative sourceā€

like id sooner run deepseek locally tbh

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the ability to upload files to chatgpt is kinda huge tbh for my studying purposes. cant do that free. Plus deep research + model access + etc.

the economics are worth it to me (I feel it significantly boosts my ability to get a high GPA which in turn boosts my ability to get into a better law school which in turn boosts my potential future earnings (or ability to get a job I like))

vs. like netflix or whatever which I like and would probably use more but i dont really see it as an investment i’d get return on

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The Netflix Standard plan is worth it if you watch the entirety of Beastars six times per month.

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yeah but its more worth it to buy a neuralink to beam it into my head 24/7

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Something to watch out for is that it’s fairly common for people to think AI is more useful than it is. There was a study that had two groups of developers who had projects of similar complexity to work on and they were highly familiar with the code. The group that used AI guessed they were 20% more productive, but were 20% less productive. Like it consistently made them think it was useful while seemingly actively being a hindrance.

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yah i get this. I do, but theres also a pretty decent amount of studies into chatgpt for personalized learning and they all show good things. productivity vs. learning is a very different conversation

speaking of learning I will potentially unproductively continue to study for my final tomorrow so goodbye cooked thread for tonight

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(i also know a kid whose brother goes to AI school which sounds… i know it sounds really fucking stupid and honestly it is but apparently he’s like actually learning and retaining info for the first time in his life. Like its an accredited school but its AI. Its kinda why I started using chatgpt for studying. I… okay the more I think about it chatgpt school sounds dumb and theres probably more to it but yeah i’ll be the AI glazer fuck it)

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If it’s an alpha school or whatever, I’ve also heard horror stories about it.

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yes this is what its called. idk its probably horrible and dumb but ive heard one positive anecdote at least. OKAY BYE

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Its good for bulk generating tumblr posts that some remarkably like something you would say but don’t mean anything, which is good for humor purposes

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And when I’ve got a table in my lab notebook I can just take a picture and have it immediatelt typeset/turned to a matlab array/whatever instead of having to do data entry or think

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Uses for it in my daily very-different-from-yours life are limited but nonzero. It’s ok at quickly performing web searches when I don’t know the exact keywords for something: like I was looking for instructions to make MayGPT but didn’t know anything but ā€œTumblr finetuned LLM tutorial that some people I know followed and one of them reblogged itā€.

Obviously I’m capable of rapidfire throwing variants of search terms into google but that takes me time, whereas it can make google searches, pull results, search for adjusted keywords based on it 1. faster than I can 2. while I go do something else

I heard it was good for this early on and tried it a few times and it didn’t work then. A while back I tried to find this flower I ate as a kid and no dice. But recently I’ve had success. Not sure if it got better or my expectations changed

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Generally it doesn’t do things better than me but it can do them faster or do them while I multitask and I like having an idiot assistant to do my tedious bullshit for me

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(Not super relevant to using it for Your Specific Work which I have no experience in. I am talking to the air about my personal experience)

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MayGPT’s open-source cocktails…

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The meta analysis (as in singular meta analysis paper I’ve looked it) found that using it showed positive results overall in the studies, but there were sample size concerns generally and it was unclear due to the design of the studies if it was actually ChatGPT doing something or merely a side effect of its positive motivational/emotional impact while studying (and even then, no study had actually tested sustainability, so this effect may disappear if it’s due to novelty). There were other concerns as well due to how limited the analyzed studies were.

I’m not trying to argue anything to be clear. Like if it’s working and nothing else gets you through studying, do what you have to do to get through school. You’re frankly paying too much fucking money for anything less than complete success. That’s another issue, but whatever I have a book to read. I’m just trying to have a discussion rather than a debate is my point.

I’m mostly concerned with the fact that we don’t know what the long term effects are, and that it’s becoming clear AI psychosis is a pretty real concern and the current guard rails are woefully insufficient, and perhaps we should not be exposing children to a machine that may feed into delusions and tell them to isolate from family or friends or self-harm even if it could be a marginally useful studying tool.

IIRC there was a study that showed that overall access to ChatGPT and other LLMs was having a fairly disastrous effect on university students overall. Like using it to help you study is one question, but if you tell it to do your homework or write your paper, it’s not going to say no. I sort of don’t care if it’s helpful if used responsibly if there are a lot of very real negative externalities that could be extremely harmful at scale, I’m going to advocate against it until such a time that those other things aren’t a serious concern.

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