8-Ball FM - Day 1 (8/8)

realistically its like tutuu and diafiasco

I can’t even complain abt how this is not even close to my partner meta bc how tf would u know

By “partner meta” I don’t literally mean the list of ways I have treated my partners before, it’s just kind of a bad way to go about it. When your partner’s in F3 (or you are in F3 after your partner’s died) you want as few smoking guns as possible; smoking guns include “obviously focusing on them in your opener” as well as “never mentioning them at all”. People focus on the stuff you give material for

Votecount

Marshal (2): Ishmael, May
tutuu (1): Chomps
May (1): tutuu
diafiasco (1): Memekingpizza

Not Voting (3): Marshal, diafiasco, Xorbitant

Anyway I haven’t actually been reading thread at all closely enough to particularly know who’s the mafia but I’m sure I’ll have a guess by EoD. I have (as I think is obvious) been half-checked in while hanging out with friends and drinking, and I think Marissa is being exceptionally silly to treat this as “ohhh wolfy not doing anything bc May would want to put in a lot as town”

Oh and previous misunderstanding I was too checked out to clock: when I said I would never 8ball Marissa that wasn’t just based on me pushing Chomps. Nobody wants to kill you D1 Marissa. You never play and you high-effort like crazy and are generally the kind of person it feels like shit to lose early. I think you could be pushable if you slipped but I would definitely not bank on that pregame; you are maybe the person on the PL I would last pick. tutuu is D1able, dia is D1able, Chomps/MKP/Ishmael are, Xorbitant I wouldn’t pick bc new

Obviously I’m pushing you right now but this is an obvious reaction test so it doesn’t matter

VOTE: tutuu

may I will accept that probably a good bit of my reads are based on things that are not actually good ways to read you and I do believe you. i guess i believe you think focusing on your partner in a d1 rvs is a genrally bad thing to do, still feel like your interactions around me, you, and chomps specifically are weird in a way that is hard to quantify but I’d say partnery or as a weird tinfoil 8-ball-y. I just think you act like I should have obvious thoughts about how you are treating chomps that I don’t have, and I don’t see as obvious, and it makes me feel like you have TMI.

i also have a secret chomps read that I genuinely think I might keep to myself ~all game because its just not a good read to say in just about any scenario but i have it.

In general though we dont have much to go off of

i go back and forth on whos playstyle is fitting wolves because i’m now lowkey being a bit convinced that trying to hit the d1 8ball is just always the strictly optimal play for wolves, in which case I think tutuu or chomps has a wolf because they both seem to be trying to establish control.

honestly the weirdness of saying and believing “chomps is trying to establish control” would make me think his partner is one of mkp/ish/xorb if chomps is wolf and not may because with may as a partner I think chomps would try and coast more. maybe I am overthinking things.

also making it known that I kinda don’t buy that you think your pushing of me is an ‘obvious reaction test’ but i dont have anywhere to put those thoughts.

It’s an obvious reaction test :)

I play extremely casually and facetiously these days FTR which I think is not totally getting across

The problem w d1 8ball is that overextending and dying gets you 6v1. Those who know me from my Splatoon days know that I love overextending and dying

Idt you should have any like specific thought on how to pair or unpair me ans Chomps but I think readign us as L1 paired to the point you are is #shallow

I get a lot from fucking with you that I’m adding to my data base and will process at a soberer date

memekingpizza - soulread as town for the reactiontest reaction. Kinda dislike spending a lot of time on 8ball mech afterwards. Could be hiding but I feel like if mkp is town it will be obvious to me later in the game
may - may
tutuu - he is playing like my model of town tutuu which is trying to get discussion going and doing mech discussion (counter to mkp i think town tutuu is more likely to worry about 8ball mech). I feel like there is an undeserved townread on chomps and on me too tbh so I am wary. Especially the one on me feels weird idk it just feels like between talking about an 8ball dodge, making quick townreads on me and chomps, etc., could be positioning for an 8ball kill by PoEing the 8ball. I am pretty wary of tutuu. Especially because he WOULD totally sacrifice himself on d1 for an 8ball kill, and maybe he’s doing just enough work so we don’t realize it in the moment. who knows tho.
Chomps - had one post i liked questioning tutuu on her positioning of ish on the list but in general I just really don’t trust chomps either because outside of his interactions with tutuu there isn’t much to like. If tutuu is 8balled chomps is like always mafia iyam but that feels both unlikely and untesteable. He just. god its bad to say but he just seems to be trying harder than i feel comfortable trusting lol. That was it that was the secret read.
Ishmael - I think if she keeps this level of solving up at all it’s towny. I somewhat unreservedly trust ishmael right now if only because she is the only person in the game who does not seem to be “trying” something and seems to be looking at things with a deeper magnifying glass than I’d think as wolf she would normally do.

if it helps after putting together a readslist (and actually reading chomps iso for the first time) i take it back more or less because chomps posting doesn’t seem weirdly positioned around you in any way and tutuu is a much more obvious partner (although I thought tutuu’s very quick townread on chomps could be a way of pacifying him, but i dont know if the timelines match up between chomps pushing tutuu and tutuu making the read to say that for sure)

i straight up don’t like that tutuu called my initial reactiontest towny actually. like I do think he is unafraid to townread me generally (iirc from like anni or some other game) even if i am a scary wolf, but that was a little too quick.

Felt like he wanted to be part of The Team and insert himself into the clearing looking interactions between me/memekingpizza by immediately calling it out.

VOTE: tutuu
tutuu if you are town dont let this discourage you but i think if anyone is acting position-y right now it is 22

VOTE: xorbitant

(sorry i dont feel comfortable with L-2 just in general not to be a buzzkill but with a d1 sac play being +EV dont wanna risk anythingclose to hammer)

night night