8-Ball FM - Night 1 (7/8)

[Marshal]

@Marshal

Chomps - had one post i liked questioning tutuu on her positioning of ish on the list but in general I just really don’t trust chomps either because outside of his interactions with tutuu there isn’t much to like. If tutuu is 8balled chomps is like always mafia iyam but that feels both unlikely and untesteable. He just. god its bad to say but he just seems to be trying harder than i feel comfortable trusting lol. That was it that was the secret read.

@memekingpizza this was posted 17 minutes after i said there was a secret read. i didnt wanna say anything about it because i don’t want to incentivize chomps to not play by saying it is wolfy for him to be trying hard, but i said it anways.

[Marshal]

i still have yet to read that game u linked so the verdict is out on how much i believe you but im not gonna keep dunking on you until i have read it

[tutuu]

It’s fine, I’m at peace. Dunk on me if you want, as long as you can like simultaneously try to consider me town and work with me. Idk if that’s possible, maybe it is impossible. But if it’s possible I’d appreciate you trying to split realities and have one reality be you townreading me and solve the game with me and in the other one feel free to kill me, verify my flip, and then proceed with our solve. I think that would be good

[tutuu]

If you think about it executing me D1 here would be like me revealing as Innocent Child if I’m not bombed (I’m not bombed), except I wouldn’t be able to post more. That’s honestly fine. I don’t feel comfortable advocating for my death but it isn’t even that bad, honestly it’s really not. The only bad thing is if there’s communication failure and ppl don’t even wanna consider me town. They won’t re-read my posts overnight, they will have forgotten my posts and moved on. If ppl just try to consider I’m town while they’re killing me (if that’s possible) it’s good

[Ishmael]

after taking nap and rereading tutuu seems less bad but still like horrendously bad

MKP is prob my town/wolf line

May
Marshal
[huge gap]
Chomps
[smaller gap]
Dia
MKP
Tutuu

xorb is in a superposition of really low and really high still

gonna dig into dia and see if their stuff moves anything in me

[tutuu]

@diafiasco

Looking at Combelintorics – where Chomps scumread Tutuu incorrectly – Tutuu is similarly didactic in the abstract, opening that game with some general recommendations on strategy. However, Tutuu has been far more manic about driving the bus this game, he’s playing like Gummy did last game. I don’t think Chomps’ reasoning is very good, but it did genuinely set Tutuu off, so that is potentially unpairing.

#138 is a good observation (though I thought the reaction test was good for what it provided about MKP). I am more convinced than before that Ishmael just posts like this when entering the thread. She has extreme opinions presented nonchalantly, that is her MO. This isn’t a difficult note to hit and she doesn’t seem very polarized. Saying you will defer your opinion to a wolf partner in RVS isn’t actually that bold and crazy.

Through fifty Tutuu posts, I’d actually say this is a villager GTH if I only look at this game. If I look at one game ago though (which I spectated), Tutuu is posting off the fucking wall and I think all of the strategic points she has made are annoying me. Also I still have 170 posts to read and probably 100 of them are going to be slinging shit

@diafiasco

@tutuu

She feels jagged / spiky in a towny way

This is plausible and if May did not immediately get drunk on entry and messypost I would probably be townreading him harder. I wouldn’t say w!May has a nervous energy, but right now May clearly hates the game of mafia and everyone in it, which is closer to villager May who gets peeved at everything from my experience. I know May hates wolfing more psychologically but I think he’s more likely to bottle it up as wolf specifically because people know he hates wolfing.

@diafiasco

Tutuu’s clarification on the Chomps read is good, feels real, et cetera. He should do the same to me because my reads benefit from it. Why is the game harder if I am a wolf? How am I the Level 0 LHF in this lobby? Getting to w!me because you “gambled” during the RVS, when read lists do not matter, does not track as a real thought.

dia is a wolf because they are the player treating me in best faith this game, at least in these posts. They have a self-preservation strategy to not look bad off of my flip, like a lot of other people would look. They aren’t debuffed by the mass hysteria there is going on around that’s causing uninformed players to be paranoid of me like I’m the Boogeyman. Dia knows I’m town, and knowing I’m town is assisting them offer good (and they are good) explanations for why I’m town, when the actual villagers are struggling to find me as town

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@diafiasco

@tutuu

dia lean wolf. playing cleanly, laying low. feels a bit detached from threat, isoing instead of live posting

do u want me to honk my clown nose sorry for being good at the game and fucking normal with it lol

Also, this post speaks like they are townreading me (and their earlier posts are more than not townreading me), so this vote doesn’t track

@diafiasco

VOTE: tutuu i’m going to launch yo ass into the sun

I don’t think town!dia omguses me right after townreading me. Yes, I have done this behavior. Yes, I am town. No, me and dia are not the same person. I will not make the mistake of projecting myself onto others and assuming they operate like me. Some of you guys are doing this assumption

[Ishmael]

after a quick skim i lowkey fw dia’s iso heavy

logic where even if I disagree with conclusions i understand their thought process from a town pov

im unsure what to make of their refusal to really engage with the marshal/22/may fight but honestly given it was warping thread around it i think it was the right decision

[diafiasco]

@tutuu

dia is a wolf because they are the player treating me in best faith this game

come the fuck on

[diafiasco]

and no the clown nose post does not mean i’m townreading you i’m saying it’s ridiculous that the crux of your argument is that only wolves would not be shitting and pissing themselves on the first day of day 1

[diafiasco]

i’m just not a very emotional guy i’m gonna hit the same chill ass viber register no matter what

[Memekingpizza]

Okay hi I’m back again and I won’t be leaving thread until I finish backreading the entire thing. So if anyone wants to talk live this is the time to do so.

[Memekingpizza]

Oh lol. You can see the moment I stop reading and put my focus elsewhere.

[Xorbitant]

Absolutely no

[Memekingpizza]

Mech player looks at the only mech in the game. Yeah sure.

[Memekingpizza]

town thought. This is the biggest thought that most town should have. Belief in yourself because you know your own alignment.

[Memekingpizza]

Hi I’m here at this part. In this point when you made this post. The biggest post helping you out is that you trust yourself more than anyone else. Which is always a town thought. But chat how much does tutuu does this thing as a play? That will give me more food for thought when we get there.

[Memekingpizza]

I laughed at this. Because this just feels like the phrase i have been told in a different compeitive game. “Play better win more” Kinda hard without details.

[Xorbitant]

Lol I had the same question

[Memekingpizza]

Hi xorb. Tribune here. Why aren’t you mafia? Because during my fun time and shopping I did a quick skim through you. But nothing screamed le town to me. (Could just the be last time we played together was rolemadness and there was more mech involve so that might obfuscate you to me)

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Votecount

tutuu (2): Ishmael, diafiasco
diafiasco (1): tutuu
Ishmael (1): Xorbitant
Marshal (1): Memekingpizza

Not Voting (3): Chomps, May, Marshal