8-Ball FM - Night 1 (7/8)

See tutuu is kinda towny!

my voice is so not raised though you did get me to use capitalized sentences

Why I think tutuu is a wolf:
I have said it a lot in the past. My thesis is as follows: tutuu has been doing a lot of things that are anti-town, anti-teamwork, and make no sense. His ā€œthunderdomeā€ of may and ā€œthunderdomeā€ of me/ish both felt like they had no real reason to get where they were. I find it completely, COMPLETELY laughable that he says he was reactiontesting May or reactiontesting me or whatever he claims he was doing there. Even now, even as he’s had time to post, I have NO IDEA what he was doing. At any point of the game up until my and his argument. There is no easy explanation if he is villager and it is very easy to explain if he is wolf as a sacrifice/8ball/chaos play that went awry.

Even now. I will admit, straight up, there are some posts I like from backreading thread while I was gone, and there are even some things in the argument which I hated at the time but cannot help myself from thinking were a little villagery. Still. It is very very hard for me to trust anything he is doing now because tutuu is totally capable of doing this ā€œwoe is me, this is my legacy, etc. etc.ā€ resonableposting now that he got called out for causing chaos early.

And like. What he’s doing now feels like an overreaction even. I don’t think he’s as cooked as he says he is. So the fact that he’s acting like it worries me. The SAME vibe I got where it felt like he was in wolfchat going ā€œI’m gonna keep being audacious and eventually it’ll loop around to me being townreadā€, where it felt like he didn’t believe what he was saying but waited for someone to bail him out by calling him towny. I get that now. Now I feel like he’s in wolfchat going ā€œI know Marissa is capricious, I just have to convince her, and if I keep acting like a sacrifice, I’ll be saved at the last minute and we can cfd and kill diaā€. All this talk of legacy and doom and whatnot it just. It doesn’t track that much to me.

That being said there is also a lot I townread. This is a 2part series, first where I get all my thoughts on the table as far as why I think tutuu is likely mafia and then I go into why I’m not as sure.

tutuu or others feel free to respond to this while I find what gives me pause

VOTE: Xorb :)

not interested today let him spew for another day imo

hard veto sorry I’m like 90%+ on xorb town. i can elaborate on that too just gimme a bit i got a lot to say and not a huge amount of time to.

VOTE: xorb

driving home from class will be around then til eod st least keeping up with thread

i dont have anything to respond with, im thouroughly drained, i dont think anyone particularly likes reading my arguments or reads, so id rather just dip

I don’t know why I am on everyone’s scum list I am maybe less funny than I normally am but that’s for OGI reasons not relevant

Why tutuu might not be wolf:

*reading his ISO i thought this was going to be a lot nicer but there are some really egregiously bad posts I was reminded of will quote if anyone asks me. Like come on.

one example

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This is just a preface. I… I really really didn’t like this at the time but idk in hindsight I feel like this is a villagery thing to find/post. It did feel a little internally inconsistent to me to post it so the fact that tutuu jumped on it is like. shows he is at the very least reading carefully (which kinda doesn’t fit my wolf model of him).

This is another thing where like… I don’t think this actually means anything but this is incredibly perceptive and gives me flashes that tutuu is reading the game beyond only what he can use to convince people or cause chaos. Like fuck this is such a villagery post. I could fake it but i’m a leagues better wolf than tutuu. God tutuu if you are a wolf fuck you for this post. Come on. This is where I feel the ā€œwoe is meā€ schtick is breaking because like, this is insane but I do feel like he genuinely believes this. I mean maybe they’re just partnered but lol.

(SORRY THIS IS SUCH A TANGENT BUT THIS IS A TOWNY POST FROM MAY)

This is also like. Idk this feels like it could be the grand explanation for all of tutuu’s absolute fucking nonsense and the fact that he buried the lede and didn’t highlight this bit and instead layered it somewhere inside his 300post iso gives me pause because like… yeah, this could be a reason to be absurdly loud and annoying! This could explain it and the fact that he doesn’t use it to explain it makes me like it.

alright that’s kinda it. I have another tangent about dia/may that I could go off on but all in all I still think I would kill tutuu if I had to kill anyone because he has done a lot of awful, bad-faith play this game. And what gives me pause isn’t some meta narrative thing but specific posts that feel hard to fake. but I felt obligated to like. say all this.

In Summer Vacation Mountainous, Kyubey observed w!me doing this exact thing and called it out prominently at an EoD; tutuu and I talked about this after the game in cookie. It is not a difficult observation

It was an extremely towny observation from Kyubey at the time, but tutuu is cribbing its work

Votecount

Ishmael (2): Memekingpizza, Xorbitant
Xorbitant (2): May, Chomps
tutuu (1): Ishmael
diafiasco (1): tutuu
Marshal (1): diafiasco

Not Voting (1): Marshal

ok quick dia/may diatribe

I am very worried about exactly a dia/may team for a few reasons, most prominent of all is that. Idk. it just feels like if tutuu dies it would be ā€œmineā€. and like it would be mine it is mine I have been pushing tutuu very hard. But at the same time I really do not like the vibe of dia and may backing me up on wolfreading tutuu while also keeping me at arms length, not townreading me (not that I really should be, especially with 0 flips yet, but like still going down the tutuu train. Again its not exactly unreasonable for either of them to do as town, if I was a random observer who wasn’t me I would probably wolfread tutuu but keep my own slot at an arms length.

But like. Idk. It kinda just feels like the game is letting me do all this and have everything fall on me, and that vibe I get the worst from is dia and may. Dia’s whole thing about like ā€œwell other people are already arguing with tutuu so like whateverā€ gave me bad vibes. Idk. And it just feels like may has done a lot to shut down reasons to townread tutuu or wolfread dia. I just. tutuu I need you to know I am very seriously considering the world you put forward.

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and again kyubey is a leagues better wolf than tutuu. I would say you are too but idk really enough about your wolfgame. The wolfplay tutuu has been doing today is of a sloppy wolf who is trying to throw whatever at the wall to make things stick and hyperpost out of a hole. So to have a couple really towny gems sprinkled in there but not highlighted gives me doubt.

in a quiet and lethargic tone yay

No what I’m saying is tutuu literally saw Kyubey make this observation and knows about it

okay thats fair. That’s fair only because tutuu has accused you of copying things so I could see him doing it. Idk. I am fine just to kill tutuu. well I am not fine i will feel like such a bitch either way but like that is a good point