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#21

holy fucking shit… the pepis tysm. i lovbe the little joycta…
(btw i looked back at the top of the thread this is uh. night 1 only so im probs gonna be a bit less conservative w my posts and such?)
iii do wanna take a better look at the gocj analysis (which is why i havent said anything until now bc my spoons are so lacking) but nrn, but im like?? idk some of those names i feel like have been townier otherwise which makes me pause a bit to see in poe ig (or also like. idk brad i feel like is generally obv when u know him but idk weh? ill come bacik to this later)
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i was thinking earlier but ya p much amelia needs to be a weaker w or towb? weh im so mercedes benz. im a bah.
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i do agree like i think esp like… wrt a selection of ppl this is a towny group of ppl to choose from carb lmao
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alsoooo uhh we should probs look for the vote stuff??? jol;dui

im not like? used to FoL voting but that would like bungle it would it?? like it registers the unvote and not ur revote i think, bc idt the auto vc tracked that either?

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#22

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Fair I felt they seemed uninformed in their posting and enough people questioned that who role stuff that honestly made me pretty srue just believeable. yeah this just isn’t the group you pick as wolf carb nor how you start the chat I’d defend them alot from stuff tomorrow any any ITA’s there would legit be bad.

also for vote stuff yeah didn’t work in either carb if you wanna unvote and revote just place a new vote for the future makes it easier for hosts and then the bot will see it not saying it’s a bad like it’s a very finicy system just would be likely better.

Also thought and amelia just likely dies to town vig tonight so not gonna spend my focus there much (I hope they don’t tbh though)

I also won’t be here SoD tomorrow just noting since I can

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#23

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nod nod, idt ive acc seen much of carbo itt but ya
wdym by this btw

im probs not gonna be here for like a lot of tmrw lmao (including every ita session ^w^. yay. (acc ill be able to make one i think but. ya)

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#24

Thats whats weird from that end game but wolves have to be there regardless, in my opinion the biggest contenders in there are kelsier brandlad and zug, they can just get ita’d and i wouldnt really blink if they flipped wolf

Luka i do believe with more confidence now that they are wolf, idk why but everytime i roll town and luka wolf its the same behavior ive been seeing this game hence why ive been kinda death tunneling them

Litten is more town leaning than anyhting but the hard pivots make me reconsider a lot of stuff

Chloe and gori can also die in itas ig im going to leave sorta of a prediction chart in therms of voting

Apocryphal (16): Ephemera, Mistyx, HeroShotter9000, iamagummybear, Leafia, TheBlueElixir, Memekingpizza, nutella, soweli, catbae, Wisdom, Wazza, benguinedparbecue, Gocj, Cape90, RetrogradeDusk
Amelia (14): pandora, tepig19283, Jane, Litten, Apocryphal, gori, Kelsier, BradLand, Luka, tutuu, whatdafucc, bystander, neil_the_eel, Zugzwang

Id also like to add Frostwolf in the sus list just for the later day comments which felt really off

otherwise anybody not colored means they are null, the less saturated colors mean its a lean, sorry eel but your comment on the “being inconcucive” or whatever feels weird looking back can you shine a bit more of light, also looking a bit back Chloe is prolly more of a town lean due to the unvote

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#25

I think amelia as a slot if likely town based on how apo was like as a person that EoD shooting a more hiding slot then someone people were willing to move to off wolf KP/Invest is. Bascially is the shot I see that if you aren’t looking and have a gun you shoot there but think it’ll just be a town flip which would just be shrug to me like

I think they are town and flipping them doesn’t progress my mental state in the game.

also same I might make the super late one after work but am working a 12 hour tomorrow and would rather just pass out day 3 I am here just day 2 is gonna be ROUGH

also agree saw little why I like the picks feel wolf more likely to pick more influencial people which is where alot of the credit actualyl comes in

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#26

i mean yeah but weh. idk how much i can disagree but nya. i feel like its probs worth holding off on brad but i dont know if i myself can commit to facilitating a read there atm weh.
im of two minds abt lukeh bc i keep thinking theyre scummy but will post some towny shit but then like-> if amelia is town the appeal from lukeh to chloe and i to vote amelia when we were on apo was uhm. bad
ack wrt litten, would nee to look more into that
i think gori can probs have a day tbh? i dont rlly think theyre worth focusing given theres some meta trs there that are probs fine to sheep atm even if i havent read them directly here (i saw u commented later on chloe but nya shes cute)
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can u talk abt ur tr on wazza and wisdom?
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im ngl idk what youre referencing there bc i uh. say and typo a lot of shit

ahh yeah. also rereading eod and apo like… lolcatting?? is weird bc like. a wolf lolcats like that generally if theyre protecting a higher power wolf but then also the behaviour is kinda incongruent otherwise if amelia is a lower power wolf bc other reasons? idk im not pulling up the WAP fallacy yet but it ? might jsut make them town . lemme sleep on this and come back tho
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lmaoo im gonna be at school for like 12 hrs :'3 im gonn a be so eepy. doesnt even get better d3 :'3
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ya. ig devils advocate says carb might not be able to manage thjat but like. also id assume a hood like that has better mechs lmaoooo and i think the comment of like “if yallre wolfy mfs ill publicize this” feels good when otherwise the contrast would be like … that the publicization is a method for the wolf to be in check (when carb says it wont auto flip even if carb dies)
tldr ya

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#27

Okay I did read alittle bit but am passing out right after this went through Apo’s ISO

Legit makes kork look even better then he was earlyier like from this and being one of the TWO people that know’s kork he’s decent. (he has 3 game experiences 1 mafia 2 town) and his responce to presure decent

Apo seems to really come back to the anti king thing ALOT of slight push for more joiners quite a bit way more then other gimics.

also lowkey think the me/her int is like super clearing for me about open wolfing for anyone that doubts am obvious V

Did everything I gotta do over night at the least expect most my town reads to die tonight that aren’t here if I die tonight and don’t come back a oh well think the post restiction made me think this could be multi night and how it was worded but agree with neil says for Night 1 at the top so I kind of wasted alot of potential.

Lowkey though gummy I am gonna look at tomorrow if I have time just feel is the most likely wolf here and waws hoping to have some stuff to read from them.

#28

Actually @carbonated why did you town read gummy over anyone else? Like what specifically got you to that read and if you’ve looked at thread since then how does it stand up to now?

Just wanna see how you see it tbh.

Good night for realz now

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#29

I am getting ready for work so don’t have too much time to respond to everything but will respond to accusations about me (lol) carbonated plays in the same circuit as me (qbcord) so can vouch a lot more for my playstyle- I play very different as town than I do as mafia.

When I saw I had been added to a hood and saw carbonated was it I reasoned they probably added me lol bc I am quite irrelevant in the eyes of most FoLers otherwise lol

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#30

I am realizing SOD is at 5 pm. And I work until 5. And I did not bring my personal laptop, and I’m not going to play mafia on my work laptop lol.

I don’t think I can effectively ISO on my phone, but I’ll try and point out a couple of people I thought had weird votes/people who in hindsight after the Apo flip had weird votes.

I should have ISOed yesterday, but it was my last day with my cousins for a while, so I spent time w them

I am not sure if Mafia bussed apo and if they did, I am not sure at what point they would have, because afaik the votes were really close for most of the day, although there were times when the Apo wagon was a lot higher than the pigeon wagon and vice-versa

If anyone has time and as a personal note for myself, look at early/medium Pigeon voters (particularly where it was close between them), Amelia voters in general, and late Apo votes. I think that is where most of the mafia would lie, but I am not super good at wagonomics so er I also may be completely off.

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#31

Not sure on Chloe, some also hesitant on. I can get behind Kelsier and Luka though.

does the op count

rip lmao. yeah i figured that out just didn’t want to waste another post on that two minutes later.

also it’s carbon. like apo i have my insistence. carb or carbo reminds me of carbohydrates which was not the purpose of this username and adds to my diet insecurities.

meh i feel like amelia is dying soon anyway so

vibes.

in all seriousness i don’t know gummy’s typing tell as much as ik her voice meta (sorry) but she just seems eager and active and i take that as a good sign generally. also most of fol is not going to pay as much attention to gummy if I don’t do something abt it

lmaooooo me toooo i’m at work right now a bit early and then i’ll be conked out until nighttime on my way home.

i feel extremely unreliable regarding wagonomics because last time i was in qbcord i introduced a bs form of wagonomics to bribe the town members into overlooking that I had nothing useful to say as mafia and then I set back the actual usage of wagonomics in qbcord probably by two years after mafia won but i don’t acc know anything about wagonomics

at post #8854:

thepigeonnyc (10): tutuu, Apocryphal, Relm, Zugzwang, Creature, Gocj, whatdafucc, benguinedparbecue, Cape90, Luka

my sus on tutuu and Luka doesn’t go away after this. I want to revisit Zug too. Idk about hexcode colors. i want to iso creature but idk if i have time for that

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#32

Idk how to iso or quote on my phone so

Yesterday I said if Apo flipped mafia suspicions should be raised on benguined and whatdafuck?(whoever the person with the face is that got mad at someone for saying who are you) bc I am pretty sure they voted pigeon at a critical close moment between the wagons

Benguined did vote Apo i think near the end afterwards but idk what to think about that as mafia could very well be bussing at that point

Zug voted Amelia near the end. Idr who they were on before but i think this looks bad for them as they may have been trying to save apo

My only holdup on them being scum leaning is like surely at that point mafia would have cut their losses and or may have thought apo wouldnt flip right? Like 4 people voted apo after them within a min and idk how mafia woule have anticipated such a change so im not sure what to make of this. Any thoughts?

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#33

fwiw i do agree it’s probs not great to focus on amelia/pigeon bc they’re? probs getting blasted in itas regardless but wagonstate leading up to the elim seeems to imply most of the earlier wagons (leafia/kork(?)zug/hazzy/kels(?)) are more likely towb? given the relative quiet and lack of huge movement before then ? i also realized i’m actually probs not gonna be on b4 sod at all bc i’m a fool who forgets things but nya.
also tbh i kinda assume some of the later flippers might have decided to cut their losses onto apo but ymmv, idr any names specifically that come to mind
tho ig i rember brad’s vote being kinda yucky as he swapped tho he pulled off? which. idk arguably worse from him LMAO

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#34

also ngl what’s your read on relm? and whatthefuck ?

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#35

Thank for answering btw makes me understand your pick there quite a bit more.

I’ll trust what you said for now and appreciate gummy checking in

Am at work now so like am not able to read much anything for solving purposes

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#36

Ive had experience with w!wazza and they dont really ping me how they did that game so thats mostly why i tr them, adding to that their stance in the game reads to me more townie than not

Wisdom tr comes more from the apo vote

This

Yeah read a bit more and chloe spews thenselves as town imo? Read on my 2nd message more to see the reasoning, otherwise id like to blast kelsier luka in itas tomorrow

I dont get why everyone is chalking up amelia to just being ita/vigi fooder when they in my eyes are one of the most likely to be town thanks to the EoD am i flipping

I can get behind everybody besides kels here, maybe zug but i havent read zug that much yet

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#37

Also i just realized the colors in this looks off on phone, uhhh basically the lesser of said color people have its the color of the lean

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#38

oh that’s a disgusting typo. i meant indecisive. i unvoted amelia atp and then chloe followed me but i , seeing that felt i had to re-vote (sth sth wagon stuff i uh. probs wasn’t thinking straight that eod.) i tried to unvote again at eod but it was after thread close /shrug
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ack on wazza and wisdom, wrt wazza is there something u can cite specifically wrt how they r posting?
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i’m ngl this is a full wagonstate read but those were wagons that were kind of latently at a head most of the game and it was only like… the pigeon/amelia/apo wagons that started getting spicy. this implies wolves were ~fine with wagons for the rest of the day. it’s not rlly a read on content but instead on threadstate which is a wild and devious beast. (i have decent wagonomics intuition tbh but meow. ymmv)

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#39

Ugh phone sucks let me see if i can find them but in general it was just the live posting that felt right

Dont agree with the stance but good post

And more posts of them scream townie to me imo, like the chloe wolf read

I dont think necessarily, theres a reason i started listing around where pigeon wagon started i think? Or one of the wagons started cuz thats the point where waves were shaken so wolves can out themselves

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#40
Legacy
Wagonomics EoD Day 1

Apocryphal (16): Ephemera, Mistyx, HeroShotter9000, iamagummybear, Leafia, TheBlueElixir, Memekingpizza, nutella, soweli, catbae, Wisdom, Wazza, benguinedparbecue, Gocj, Cape90, RetrogradeDusk
Amelia (14): pandora, tepig19283, Jane, Litten, Apocryphal, gori, Kelsier, BradLand, Luka, tutuu, whatdafucc, bystander, neil_the_eel, Zugzwang
Zugzwang (4): Magnus, LittleLee, spookycat27, Selkie
thepigeonnyc (3): Relm, Creature, Kork
Pqwerty (3): thepigeonnyc, YoubutWorse, Ruby
Kelsier (2): Kiiruma, Marluna
tutuu (1): Atlas
Leafia (1): Ratchet
Kork (1): CarrotyReaper
catbae (1): Jarek
YoubutWorse (2): Daeron
Frostwolf103 (1): Silviu200530
Ephemera (1): lol
CarrotyReaper (1): Pqwerty
HeroShotter9000 (1): ImaginaryNeon

Not Voting (17): Amelia, beancat, sulit, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, ElizaThePsycho, carbonated, Frostwolf103, Chloe

Voting when the apoc wagon first regained traction:

Voters of apo at the moment of that that switched at EoD please cross reference the following

People who stand up:
Brandland

Responses to Pigeon pivot

AMELIA CFD STARTER

^ the same wolf

Now from these i believe the wolves are in the following people
Luka
Litten
Kelsier
Brandlad
Zug
Gori

Thats whats weird from that end game but wolves have to be there regardless, in my opinion the biggest contenders in there are kelsier brandlad and zug, they can just get ita’d and i wouldnt really blink if they flipped wolf

Luka i do believe with more confidence now that they are wolf, idk why but everytime i roll town and luka wolf its the same behavior ive been seeing this game hence why ive been kinda death tunneling them

Litten is more town leaning than anyhting but the hard pivots make me reconsider a lot of stuff

Chloe and gori can also die in itas ig im going to leave sorta of a prediction chart in therms of voting

Apocryphal (16): Ephemera, Mistyx, HeroShotter9000, iamagummybear, Leafia, TheBlueElixir, Memekingpizza, nutella, soweli, catbae, Wisdom, Wazza, benguinedparbecue, Gocj, Cape90, RetrogradeDusk
Amelia (14): pandora, tepig19283, Jane, Litten, Apocryphal, gori, Kelsier, BradLand, Luka, tutuu, whatdafucc, bystander, neil_the_eel, Zugzwang

Id also like to add Frostwolf in the sus list just for the later day comments which felt really off

otherwise anybody not colored means they are null, the less saturated colors mean its a lean, sorry eel but your comment on the “being inconcucive” or whatever feels weird looking back can you shine a bit more of light, also looking a bit back Chloe is prolly more of a town lean due to the unvote

Btw if any of yall want me to like copy a SoD of yours for me to send at the start of the day post it and ill do it since i think ill be around for it

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