April Showers Forlorn - TOWN + NEUTRAL VICTORY

[Zone_Q11]

@carbonated

Bean ownsn the hood though so she’s the creator

Negative. beancat can invite players to the hood, but no player “owns the hood”. You all own “the ability that lets you access the hood”.

@carbonated

creator is the controller of the neighborhood???

The hood in this game is unbounded by any player. Though… functionally speaking, I suppose I have made beancat’s ability appear as if “the one who can invite other players is the owner”. It wasn’t intended to be that way, but I guess your interpretation is valid.

[carbonated]

The owner of this ability is considered as a [Wandering Neighbor].

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OWNER REFERS TO ME NOT SOME EXTERNAL PLAYER

[carbonated]

i thought it was info saying beancat was a neighborizer.

it’s joever.

[soweli]

@Zone_Q11

[Passive: Lost and Found] to also be considered as [Wandering Neighbor] so they become immune to the anti-claim as per dia’s passive:

… is there a reason you couldn’t just word the passive as “anybody with [passive: Lost and found]”

[carbonated]

me when “confirm your role” always ends up in some misinterpretation somehow that i roll with until the host goes like 70% of the time when i play on fol

[diafiasco]

Confirm your role had me tinfoiling about multiple 3Ps from day zero this is why my confirm your role text is just say me me active

[carbonated]

i don’t even do confirmation i just leave time for people to ask questions before gamestart

[Zone_Q11]

Because that in itself would confirm the existence of the passive. I need people (e.g., Mafia) to be able to bluff (or rather, be paranoid) about having abilities that lets them learn other players’ abilities (i.e., Ability Cop).

[meow]

I think the confirmation system is good for what it’s worth

I’ve had players misunderstand what their role does…also the player we compare you to once didn’t read the part where it said he lost his investigative abilities if he claimed them and claimed d1 for no reason…

[carbonated]

Confirmation doesn’t work on me confirmed.

[carbonated]

@meow

the player we compare you

why is this the descriptor now

[Zone_Q11]

@Jarek

Some people really do just have abilities that create a hood and nothing else and I think that’s BS I’m ngl

Gee, I wonder why this role exists?
*looks at gummy’s role*

@Jarek

[…] but there is also the chance that there’s a chat checker just like last game and this hood creation ability exists to fuck them over…but that was another game and is highly specific

Highly specific, huh?

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@meow

@Jarek

that the immunity to anti-claim is because there’s a wolf in the hood chat - it’d be…well a bit silly, if someones role was instantly anti-claimable to the wolf in that chat because they knew their role from being in the chat.

That, or it was expected that the hood chat would be much likelier to full claim and to provide incentive to do that they made the chat un-anti-claimable or something. Still means a wolf is probably in it to make that not just free claims.

yeah, this is a more articulate explanation for what I feel weird about

like if the neighborhood is pure, then the anticlaim immunity feels like an intentional red herring/trap that was put solely in to make us think it’s impure, which seems…bad? from a setup design angle?

but I understand zone likes subverting meta, but I’ve been assuming it’s more like, making towncoded roles mafia and vice versa. rather than like, engineering a situation that is intended to look suspicious? but I haven’t seen enough games, would zone do this?

Before this game: No.
After this game: I hope so.

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@Kiiruma

The actions: If you claim something and people don’t question it, you gain 1 shot of that ability in addition to your own.

Ez

Don’t mind me… I’m just stealing that…

@beancat

im the -EV vig, I can shoot people that’s bad for town to end their misery

for legal reasons this is a joke

For legal reasons, I’m stealing this.

[soweli]

oh that’s why beancat wanted -EV roles joycat

[Jarek]

I got N1’d for being right on both wolves

gg ez

[beancat]

@Zone_Q11

@Kiiruma

The actions: If you claim something and people don’t question it, you gain 1 shot of that ability in addition to your own.

Ez

Don’t mind me… I’m just stealing that…

monopoly liars edition vibes
any kind if cheating is allowed as long as you get away w it

[diafiasco]

my wolfing career started at age 8 when i fake claimed “the banker” in monopoly and took thousands from the bank while no one was looking

[carbonated]

i’ve been wanting to play this. i haven’t been able to obtain a copy

[Ash]

I have this at home.
My dad got perma-banned from Monopoly for cheating too hard in that game.

[beancat]

its very fun

espcially when you play it with individuallys already crazy with social deduction games

[carbonated]

You’re also the finance guy, so i suppose you still do need to make money, not have it all get stolen…