April Showers The Third - MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY

[pandora]

@Heiter

Hellooo I should be more active this latter half of the day now that I’ve finished my college work and my parents are home. I’ma have breakfast and read up :)

hi :)

[pandora]

@Canping

gazing upon the posts now, am i the only one who thinks starboy and leafia could be aligned?

i dont like leafia’s read list either

could be

[Leafia]

Heading out now too.

[Chomps]

VOTE: Starboy

[pandora]

VOTE: leafia

I don’t know how to descibe leafia except that she feels more agressive than she usually does as town… which is sort of saying a lot

[Marluna]

Do you have any reasons behind your votes, or you always just vote the current leading wagon? (Or the hdra)

[pandora]

usually leafia gets snippy when she’s targetted this time she’s just snippy

[Marluna]

I think she is always very agressive.

[Chomps]

Vote the neutral when i can make it a wagon (smiley exempt) > Vote the hydra when i can make it a wagon > Vote one of the wagons i scumread the most

my entire vote logic

[Chomps]

i avoid vanity voting

[Chomps]

@Chomps

ooh i missed that rhea message i will do one tomorrow

this will come later i juat woke up i cannot think right now

[Marluna]

I understand that, but why do you scumread Star? You placing your vote is literally tells us nothing. (Except you think, that person you think is scum)

This way it is hard to read your motivation behind the vote, and simply will everyone assume you are just sheeping.

[Chomps]

Star’s esrlier messages just made me think they come from an agendaed perspective, i read them, i can see a wolf making those, trying to control their words and just appearing towny, slowly making the first plays to their pushes later in the game

[Creature]

Meh. soweli is the only townread I have so far.

[Creature]

@Rhea

Creature’s near-complete absence bothers me, though he did leave an explanation, so I cannot complain too much. I would like to see much more from him when he returns.

childe’s absence also bothers me, but not as much as Creature’s, given that it had a similar issue in my Kakegurui: Compulsive Gambler Mafia. Still, this is no reason to disregard the issue.

On the other hand I’m a bit concerned with Rhea caring about childe and me being absent when there are plenty of active players to be bothered about instead.

[Jarek]

Starboy (4): Kiiruma, Frostwolf103, Canping, Chomps

Sorry I don’t think this wagon is a good one, I think starboy has been quite towny and I’m going to need some sort of case on why you four believe this isn’t the case?

Compared to some other members of this town I don’t see what you think you’re going to get out of flipping this slot

[Jarek]

@Starboy

Kiiruma spent many of their early posts repeating that they didn’t want to talk about mech, and that we should stop talking about it, but then half of their posts were about mech, or about their earlier posts

@Starboy

I just quoted 2 posts where they kept saying they didn’t want to focus on mech. I’m not going to blame anyone for not talking about mech, I don’t paticularly excel in Mech myself so I rarely focus on it, but actively doing the thing you’re saying not to is certainly odd.

@Starboy

is this not mech disscussion?

Paradoxically kiiruma despite being a mech heavy player and self-stated as such they are avoiding mech like the plague, yes.

I was going to defend starboy here or at least update my read on them but I had to point this out really quick this is a fair point.

[Marluna]

Agreed.

VOTE: Leafia

I think it is more likely to be a hit.
I just don’t see how different she is from Ice age mafia.

[Jarek]

I’m looking back on them some more and their recent posts do mostly focus around kiiruma - but they are also voting on them and I don’t think starboy is making their suspicions on that slot very hidden at all.

Someone mentioned that they might be oppurtunistic setting up kills for later as a wolf, but

@Starboy

but this reads like a bit of a stretch to me. The town, as Jarek had said, had more or less moved on. I find it unlikely that Kiiruma would pop into thread, and attempt to divert away from an already dying disscussion. If anything I think, if Kiiruma is attempting to direct us, would be directing us back onto the disscussion.

This would have been a great time to jump on the kiiruma bandwagon that I was pushing at the time. They didn’t take that choice they’ve gone and done their own thing whilst still suspecting kiiruma anyway, which I think comes from a town perspective - in the sense that they didn’t follow a read they didn’t believe in, until they found something themselves.

[Jarek]

VOTE: Canping

I think their reason for voting starboy is the least…present?