April Showers The Third - MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY

Leafia hasn’t explicitly claimed her role action. What are you talking about here?

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targeting kiiruma because she wasn’t sure about his alignment

You don’t even know what she targeted him with.

Yes
but her method of claiming it is sus af

Given her action it makes sense as a decision. If you think the way she claimed it is suspect, that is fine, but I find it to be a very sensible choice, at least from Leafia’s perspective, given my knowledge of her role.

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this is just stupid question…
How would you know anti-claim can happen during the day, if you weren’t mafia?
VOTE: Leafia

:t_rex:

Haha does that mean I can ask the item giver to give me something to do in the night :pleading_face:

Eh to be fair I think leafia auto defaults to going with kiiruma most of the time? Or maybe just someone they know.

VOTE: Leafia

actually im sheeping rheaVOTE: Rhea

oops VOTE: Heiter

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Not sold on leafia, I think resolving the apparent incorrect investigative information is prudent as opposed to uh, what amounts to blind guessing?

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It’s not really blind.

Leafia just wants to appear to be town, and believes she reserve to being townreaded on superficial reasons.

I would also much prefer to execute between Heiter and pandora today, preferably Heiter first. If pandora flips town with the exact ability described, we know that either Heiter or Jarek performed a visit last night.

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Now I can see what you mean I have actively been seeing this but I just see that every game, town or not, from leafia and much like chomps I don’t read them for what they do in these early days any more

I don’t mean to put myself in the line of fire here, but if you roleblocked heiter, wouldn’t your choice be between killing me or pandora?

In this world, you’ve roleblocked heiter, marluna claims just 1 visit and I claim none. If pandora is a wolf or whatnot then it entirely depends on what their ability is since they’d likely be lying yada yada

If pandora is town then…I mean, the only conclusion you should reach here is the occams razor of heiter roleblocked, Marluna telling the truth (why would they lie when they are tracked after all), Me lying because I’m the only one unnaccounted for. I know I’m telling the truth - you don’t know that.

Now yeah I guess marluna could be lying and has 2 visits not just 1 and be the liar in that world. But that’s a weird thing to lie about when you’ve been tracked, lets be honest.

Honestly, maybe I’m overthinking this. I know I’m not a visiting role and I know I’m real so maybe I’m just being taken at face value. Still down to put myself in the line of fire to make this ironclad though.

but she did way too much compared to any villa game I remember from her.

a few interactions of her can be described the following way.

“look at me, I’m definetly town for this and that” and when someone points out, that the thing she did, doesn’t make them town, she follows up with: “I didn’t claim it makes me town”

It’s just so misleading. And as far I know, town Leafia sticks to her claims, and defuses (or at least tries to) the incorrect reads on themself before just simply changing the perspektive on her previous messages.
It just doesn’t feel like Town Leafia for me.

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