(backup needed) There's No Freaking Way I'll Replace Into This Game! Unless... -- Day 2 (12/14)

[jason.mrrown]

@Ash

Dia - Scumlean. I keep going back and forth on whether I’m OMGUS-ing this slot, but I also feel that this is how Dia would play mafia in this game. They’ve been pushing Willow and me, two rather low-hanging slots, off rather flimsy arguments, and they’ve constantly thrown sus on Jason without committing to it. In the aggregate, it’s strongly indicative of agenda.

I think this is towny? From a skim of dia’s iso they talked about how they disliked ash’s townread on me, and that ash shouldn’t be townread for prodding people and asking questions, then moving on to other slots*. I think ash’s response here, omgusing and perceiving dia’s push as being stronger than it actually is, is his town paranoia manifesting. And to borrow a read from shending, it tracks tonally with his post in 441.

*speaking of which, dia dropped their wolfread on ash and hasn’t really progressed there, which is kinda interesting to note

[jason.mrrown]

If i’m a cop i’m visiting shending

[Frostwolf103]

@meow

oh yeah okay I see – do you think shending is a wolf?

The more I look back on Shending and give me new perspective to look elsewhere outside of Zenon’s Law (Shending < Dia, Aleph and Alexis/YBW), the less I am believing Shending might be not wolf because the theory also requires at least one busser which I don’t feel any of three are worse off compared to each other, meaning the push feels on good faith so far. The fact that Aleph believes YBW (adressing to Alexis) is Shending’s partner.

[snow]

@ElizaThePsycho

but ill be real I don’t actually think town!snow points out that it is anti-town , specifically, rather than A Generic Bad Thing or that it Could Be A Reaction Post

Does this come from your supposed meta on me, or is this more of a general thing?

[snow]

@ElizaThePsycho

@snow

Should I consider this a pressure wagon?

okay nvm this is actually pretty wolfy
it is as if she is asking if she should Care About the wagon on her which imo i think is more wolfy than townie
in theory, this would reflect well on meow if snow is, in fact, wolf

This question came from me not seeing a case on myself, so yes, I asked whether I should care about the wagon. To be more specific, I was asking whether the wagon came from me doing something wrong or whether it’s a pressure wagon for me to be more active.

I see where you’re coming from, but I would argue it’s not unreasonable for me to make this post as town

[Shending]

okay im done with today’s stuffs, just gotta cook+eat, then i’ll be around to read / interact rest of the day

[Shending]

Wasteofacheck

[snow]

@ElizaThePsycho

… this is a wolfy as fuck mindset
“hanging a LHF d1” is the kind of thing a Wolf thinks about attempting
not a townie. a townie would attempt to hang a wolf d1

You came to a strange conclusion for one specific reason — LHF and wolf are not mutually exclusive definitions.

I’m not seeking to lynch a LHF because they’re town, I’m seeking to lynch a LHF because if they’re town it’s not as big of a loss as opposed to lynching a supposed powerwolf who flips town. Also lynching a LHF early would help with POE solve down the road, and the said LHF won’t screw with people’s minds for the rest of the game

[meow]

good check I think bc you’re subject to a lot of differing reads & clearing your slot up could be good – same reasoning as w ash really

[June]

snow (3): Hippopablompoyeetus, Barwe, ElizaThePsycho
willow (2): diafiasco, YoubutWorse
Shending (1): Aleph
diafiasco (1): jason.mrrown
Frostwolf103 (1): Chomps

Not Voting (6): iamagummybear, snow, Frostwolf103, Ash, Shending, meow

[snow]

Okay, I think I’ll VOTE: diafiasco for now

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

still on sendig vanity may or may not be around for eod

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

wife love

[meow]

@Frostwolf103

the theory also requires at least one busser which I don’t feel any of three are worse off compared to each other, meaning the push feels on good faith so far.

I think I’ve had an incorrect understanding of zenon’s law then. I thought it was of the first 3 players on a wagon+the player being voted, there was exactly 1 wolf. but it’s actually that if the player being voted is mafia, there’s 1 wolf within the voters bussing then?

sorry if I’m misunderstanding

[Frostwolf103]

@meow

@Frostwolf103

the theory also requires at least one busser which I don’t feel any of three are worse off compared to each other, meaning the push feels on good faith so far.

I think I’ve had an incorrect understanding of zenon’s law then. I thought it was of the first 3 players on a wagon+the player being voted, there was exactly 1 wolf. but it’s actually that if the player being voted is mafia, there’s 1 wolf within the voters bussing then?

sorry if I’m misunderstanding

I am thinking if there’s a wolf among the three voters, I don’t see anything unusual so this might be pure wagon.

[Frostwolf103]

And thus my theory there might be a busser with Shending as wolf, does fall apart. Shending doesn’t feel LHF that way.

[meow]

which would translate to shending being wolf, okay god I think my comprehension today is just shot, this makes so much more sense

you think it is pure because you don’t think shending was an easy wagon to jump onto or because his voters are individually towny (I know you think this for alexis/ybw right)?

[Frostwolf103]

@meow

you think it is pure because you don’t think shending was an easy wagon to jump onto or because his voters are individually towny (I know you think this for alexis/ybw right)?

I hope this wont be issue if Shending get more fraction and however yes I am indeed saying so far, mostly I feel about Dia and Aleph doesnt feel wolfy and I like YBW already (by past actions of Alexis)

VOTE: Shending

[Shending]

I see there was some questions (from ybw and hippo at least, maybe someone i forgot) about my sudden unexplained unvote on barwe after his posting so here’s the juice:

me: suspects barwe
Barwe: “I have re-read the whole thread”
me: "oh that sounds like a high-effort barwe thing, let’s see what he’s come up with
Barwe: posts some quick NAI looking responses
me: “hmmm, did he REALLY re-read the whole game and come up with nothing ?? Then he’s probably wolfing with how many thoughts he usually has on literally everything if he takes the time to care”
Barwe: Posts a billion in depth comments in SWEDISH
me: Starts laughing cuz it’s the funniest timed plottwist so far

The reason he’s taking notes in swedish is because he wasn’t thinking about how to present his effort to the thread to get townread when he did it (which he 100% would be planning around as a wolf), but because his note taking was purely done for his own benefit of solving slots. And then as he enters thread he’s like “shiet, i should be posting in english, but can’t bother translating it all”

It’s such a towntell, and that’s also part of why i laughed seeing it

[Shending]

I’m reading your latest string of posts @Frostwolf103 , but I can’t wrap my head around wtf your read is on me. Am i getting it correct that you had a strong townread on Alexis (why?), and therefore was using some kind of bussing analysis that lead you to read me as probably town, then you realized i wasn’t LHF and therefore your reason for having me as V fell apart, so that lead you to voting me again?

What convoluted BS is this actually