no actually i just wanted to challenge your reccomendation with an alternative perspective because i know a lot of people on this forum would absolutely detest palworld like i do
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and yet the combination of elements is still a novel experience that is more than the sum of its parts
donât really get why you seem to have such aversion to the concept that something could be good despite being derivative
bear in mind, i detest it becuase the game is unfathomably, insultingly mediocre, not because itâs outright bad
and thatâs your opinion 
if it were mine I would be disappointed and move on - I donât generally waste my time on things I find mediocre
right sure you can have that opinion, but, the problem is that the game has that edginess, it has that shock value, and that quite frankly means that it ought to be trying something. it ought to have a vision, instead of being what this is
like âholy shit we made pokemon but you cna eat the pokemonâ is something you could do. why are you doing it in your ARK clone with pokemon slapped onto it. itâs almost like youâre not interested in the actual idea of animal cruelty, just the optics of it
but again the shock value bits basically donât influence my opinion at all because I just donât engage with them
also not everything needs to say something with every single element of its design
shock value for the sake of it isnât anything special, sure, but it doesnât detract from the underlying game which is really all I personally care about
holy fuck palworld is obviously not trying to be a political statement on animal cruelty what lmfao
the idea that it needs to be just because it has those elements is also wild tbh
thatâs the fucking problem, dude. it literally understands nothing about a pretty large part of itsâ subject matter, even if you personally donât engage with it, and has nothing to say about it. do you not see how that could be profoundly offensive to someone who actually fucking cares about those issues?
yes
right. now. consider. that should fucking impact your reccomendation of the game. if a game includes shock value elements, you should not go âoh just ignore themâ as a way to assuage anyone who has any doubts about whether theyâll be able to stomach the game despite that
i am not particualrly strongly predisposed to animal rights stuff, Iâm quite frankly far more concerned with the injustices visited upon humans, but what I do think is that if you are invoking the imagery of cruelty, you should not just be doing it for the sake of cruelty.
the ability to stand pointless cruelty is a luxury, and it is not something that all of us have.
I havenât said that at all
I have said that I donât engage with them personally, and that it doesnât affect my view of or enjoyment of the game at all, and that the game is still every bit as enjoyable if you choose to not engage with those systems
If you wanna do that go ham tho thatâs up to you
personally ive ignored orangeâs views on shock value since the made in abyss watch party
Ici do you endorse having this argument
yes i think art is important
she pal on my worl till i d
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and i think that what this comes down to is that iâm far more concerned with Palworld as a piece of art probably because I havenât played it
that seems likely yes