n wouldn’t miss work
perefect attedance
you know what i’m willing to hear n1 out just to dunk on singer
If I can afford the tardy without penalty I’ll do it because my attendance is almost always perfect, but i won’t get written up that’s for sure
devli’s advocate: if a child is drowning in a shallow pond
then i’m not sure how long they’ll make it even after you rescue them. useless
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Good. That seems as if it must be the right answer. Peter Singer has stated that his students, when asked about this scenario, unanimously respond that they have a moral obligation to save the child.
Okay, now suppose that there are other people walking past who would equally be able to rescue the child but are not doing so. Does the fact that they are not doing what ought to be done mean that you’re no longer obligated to save the child?
It makes no difference. I still have a moral obligation to save the child.
It makes a difference. I’m no longer obligated to save the child.
push them into the lake. force their hand
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The question isn’t that you would or wouldn’t.
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this is the morally correct answer (i can’t swim)
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It has let up. Over the past 9 months i have sealed it away with psychotic cardio. I’m a really great swimmer now
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I feel like if you said “sorry im late i was saving a drowning kid” you would probably get a pass but I don’t actually know what you do so maybe you work at a child drowning factory and they’d fire you for that
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no difference, you still have a moral obligation
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How do I win the cookie? I’m supposed to be losing weight since I’m fat as hell, but I still kind of want one
guys are you gonna let n answer the question first
It’s in the title.
The Drowning Child
Good, that response shows you’re clearly the sensible type.
Let’s recap what’s going on here. You have come across a small child who having gotten into difficulty in a shallow pond is crying in distress and possibly at risk of drowning. You have accepted you have a moral obligation to rescue the child even though by doing so you will muddy your clothes. The issue we’re now looking at is whether your obligation to help might be cancelled in particular circumstances.
A Degree of Uncertainty
Let’s imagine that there is some uncertainty attached to the situation. You know you’re not going to come to any harm if you attempt the rescue, but you can’t be sure that your efforts will make any difference to how things turn out. This is partly for the counterfactual reason that if you don’t intervene, then it is possible that somebody else will do so, thereby bringing about the same result (i.e., the rescue of the child from the pond); and it is partly because it is possible that by the time you reach the child, it will already be too late.
It is important to be clear about the precise situation here. You have good reason to suppose that your intervention will bring about a better outcome than would otherwise be the case, but you can’t be sure about it . The question is - does this element of uncertainty mean you’re no longer obliged to go ahead with the rescue attempt?
I am still morally obliged to attempt the rescue
This element of uncertainty means I’m not morally obliged to attempt the rescue
still morally obligated
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I value my job more than that of people I don’t know. So if anyone else looks the kid’s way, peace bro
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This way of thinking is very foreign to me
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Is this a trolling thread, i cant tell yet
youre interesting
what do you think the point of life is
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