socrates was so fucking annoying the athenians did nothing wrong
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Noting this for my philio class
Wouldnât you just want a better neural net to analyze the other?
I think we should construct some kind of meta perfect crab to analyse all crabs off of
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âFor 109 years, I have kept you alive and tortured you. and for 109 years, each of you has wondered, WHY? WHY ME? WHY ME?â
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his entire schtick was ânone of us know nothing but i at least know that i know nothingâ which is. one of the most pretentious things to say from someone who supposedly knows nothing
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no, i think that we should develop an entirely separate system of artificial machine learning than the current neural net model, because otherwise thereâs no way for us to meaningfully say that the entire field is not flawed from first principles
lmao the literal second paragraph of the neurons paper specifically talks about having humans do it, and previous work to that effect
This has traditionally required humans to manually inspect neurons to figure out what features of the data they represent. This process doesnât scale well: itâs hard to apply it to neural networks with tens or hundreds of billions of parameters.
(note: three different links)
for example, chess engines canât be analyzed and critiqued by chess GMs because they lack the scaling
although we can throw chess engines at themselves and see the results as something we understand
itâs funnier when you realize that Socrates was told heâs the wisest person alive and he just walked to random strangers trying to figure out why
his other schtick was constantly asking questions. he was like a five year old who keeps asking âwhy?â every time you answer one of their questions but when you inevitably run out of answers heâs just like âwow you know nothing idiot.â itâs a miracle athens didnât execute him earlier
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we shouldnât fucking do that is what iâm saying
we create a different engine for that precise purpose
nothing isnt real everything is a thing. if you define âknowingâ as having absolutely no doubt under any possible circumstances however silly you are bad and should feel bad why do you want to be miserable. like he just wanted to feel better than everyone else (according to my headcanon) but SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
I would suspect that new forms of machine learning will come along, wouldnt be that worried
currntly working on Machine Learning 2
a machine that is flawed from first principles is never going to answer âYesâ to âAm I flawed from first principles?â and itâs never going to accurately explain why
Chess has like 7 major engines that analyze one another
â But itâs not obvious that Socratesâ interpretation is the right way to understand the oracleâs message. In fact, the priestess didnât say that Socrates was wiser than everyone else, she said that no one was wiser than Socrates. This is compatible with the following propositions:
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Everyone is as wise as Socrates.
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Socrates is no wiser than anyone else.
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No one is very wise.
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No one is at all wise.
So the oracle may have been saying that Socrates is not at all wise and in that respect is no different from, and certainly no better than, anyone else. But Socrates immediately turns this into the pronouncement that he is the wisest â meaning (a) that he has some kind of wisdom (which the oracle didnât say) and (b) that he has more of it than anyone else (which she also didnât sayâ
This is the funniest interpretation
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yeah fun fact we still donât really know what knowledge is. edmund gettier has a pretty cool two page paper in which he overturned the entire field of epistemology and it hasnât been figured out since https://fitelson.org/proseminar/gettier.pdf