Divide and Conquer - Town wins

You surely townread me Day 1 at first, your innocence depends on May being killed over Chomps and you said its not strategic viable?

Like I am sorry this bugger me in your lamist way.

May did died Night 3 when it really mattered to you?

I don’t like towncasing myself or self meta because I expect people to read and for it to be evident. I find it patronizing

I’m starting to think I should just vote thethree and not waste time cuz from town frosts pov that vote made a lot of sense - they saw thethree (main suspect) pressuring me to vote frost and realised town could lose.

But as mafia that vote makes literally 0 sense as they were always about to win and I’m going to struggle to vote them I think

Then again thethrees last second switch to psycho was also kinda crazy as made their journey much harder

But on balance that is slightly a less crazy move than frosts vote just now

I wish may lived lol

Hypocritical of me but I would prefer you not speed the hammer vote up

You still voted a three wagon before miaya come in last minutes, had you voted me then I think you would have much harder time to get out of this one.

Yes it is clear to me.

I prefer that the cross happens early so the cards are on the table with more than an hour to play but the hammer can take however long they want

In thethree mafia world they deffo wanted frost and miayi in final 3 which is why they wanted me gone yesterday.

The best explanation I can give is that Frost anticipated you were probably going to vote before me or believed I was going to false-start again. However, I was 75-25 against you and it would have been a tough sell to get me to flip.

The self-meta here is that w!me would have actually just voted you at noon and not given you the time of day or responded to your questions before I voted, because I wouldn’t care whether or not you were busy. I wanted to be abundantly sure because I didn’t want to fuck up.

That’s insane.

However I think what makes the most sense is to operate on post content alone, because that vote was absolutely a misplay and the night kills that weren’t Snow were arguably a misplay and that’s not a convincing narrative even if it’s true.

I pointed that out yes.

I don’t trust your judgement you will wait out, I wasn’t aware that Goose is about to vote me by a mouse click, after I said to Goose that I am going to vote you, I trust his word that he is not going to win as wolf.

Vice versa would have said the same, its like trustfall.

This sure made me happy :blush:

Like seriously, how would I have noticed a bullet my way.

He cut out when I said WHAT in all caps because it was too real and genuine a reaction

HWPEB9d

Okay part one of me wolfcasing Frost with the caveat that I know he’s a wolf because that is the premise of a F3 cross part one

There are a lot of Frost posts that I don’t think were giveaways that he was a wolf. I’ll try to only reference what is wolfy with hindsight. Saying things like “his progression isn’t sensible” doesn’t hold water because that is within his town range and your expectations for us are different.

My belief is that Psycho did know who Snow was and wanted to be in the group of three with them. Frost probably picked the third — I don’t know why he picked YBW, but this could explain why he voted for her in his opener. Frost was very adamant on pushing out YBW, there is no nuance and saying “you’re in a pool with Psycho and Snow” is not good reasoning. Given that this is his primary argument, I guess YBW was put in here to stand out between lower-profile players. Like in p#375 — you make a good point here, which Frost is quick to dismiss as to why the pools were formed.

Where I was mistaken was believing there would be more powerwolfing going on in a setup skewed like this. Objectively, Frost’s #1 job is to distance himself from his partner, since his partner cannot endgame. His #2 job is to waste multiple miskills within the group of 3 without outing himself. I probably weighed this responsibility too much since I am a powerwolf and my priority would be blowing two kills within the group of 3 so things are as difficult as possible within the 6.

For Job #1, Frost talks to Psycho more than pretty much anyone else. Frost replies to Psycho 18 times through Day 2, compared to 14 for you and 5 for me. I am mildly judgmental of these interactions (mostly on Psycho’s end) because they are the kind of theater that negatively impacts thread health for no reason.

Basically all game, Frost has not placed a read on anyone until he has to, until it’s obligated. You are probably the one exception? I don’t think he mentioned me basically at all until I was Paired With Psycho. p#719 is another post where Frost is actively opposed to us progressing within the large group, the one that matters for endgames. However, Frost’s ISO looks reasonably good for D2 because he is committed to bussing and distancing and theater D2.

p#789 is the first time Frost brings up that Psycho and I are paired. Yes, I obviously remember this, and yes I would obviously vote him D3 for thinking this. The bullshit I did EoD3 is unironically outside my wolfrange because my ass always reads the OP as wolf and I was blindsided and felt kind of cheated by the tiebreaker rule.

The justification for this, in p#787, is complete nonsense? In the quoted post I say that the Level 0 read on the Chomps NK looks worse for Snow (it did, but I didn’t vote Snow because post analysis is more important than NKA) and Chomps didn’t talk very much about the group of six (also true). He never says who these two towns may be or how he got to this point even when I ask. This is the type of post that would get most people scumread for making because what did they mean by this, but because it’s Frost we shrug.

In p#890 Frost also establishes his desired kill order that has mostly come to pass. I kind of thought I was night kill fodder but I have clearly been set up as a miskill and Psycho into Miaya into me was planned from D2. I will say my thought process is more genuine than Frost who has pretty much decided where he is voting from his first post of the day prior to F3. I wear my heart on my sleeve and I feel like t!Frost is usually less rigid than he’s been this game.

Also acknowledging you were in fact correct in p#823 and I said no don’t be ridiculous because I wouldn’t do that and I assume every wolf plays like I would in my head

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