Yes but i didnt think someone was getting townread incorrectly, i cant know if someone is getting townread incorrectly or if the suspected people are mafia (before we flip them)
I think I registered Brad as more otwnread early-game than you did, I thought his earlygame reactions were towny and thus had mentally slotted him as town before I died but didnât particularly legacypost
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Because I thought posting a legacy would lower my vig equity and my goal D1 was to get vig read
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I think everyone townread Litten except Arctic
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Town or town lean or null maybe
Some of the DVC warrioring in spec chat is kind of insane to me
Um, Litten was town and got misexecuted the day before LyLo in Beatings Part (3 or 4). With no mafia flips. He was pushing town. Town was criticized for misexecuting him. âWhat were they doingâ
So, its bad to mischop Litten if he is wolfsiding and lives to end game (he was obvious town), but its also bad to fail to chop Litten if he is wolfsiding and lives to end game (he was obvious mafia)
Why do I get the feeling the game is easier to solve if the hosts tell you who the mafia areâŚ
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Oh yeah unrelated to post game does anyone else get immensely stressed about mafia near end game and start shaking or whatever? Or just very stressed about each day phase change? I feel like Iâm the only one who talks about the stress physical syrumomps when playing mafia
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Im really really frustrated at the spec chat informed channel smug dvc warrioring. Im not upset by brad, i dont care about his outburst, i know thats how he is, im not taking it personally. I easily brush that off. I hate it so much when people ask for spoilers, the hosts tell them who the mafia are, and then they act like this when town isnt winning
Like, people werent toxic, arguably not even rude, its just so frustrating to me, the lack of awareness for information bias. When u have spoilers things seem much more obvious to you than they look to those who dont. So not trying to account for that and just assuming that your judgement of the situation is correct and youre immune to bias is mega cringe. The assumption of immunity to bias is the behaviour that is aggravating to me, not the actual smug posting
Have u guys played games with hosts strictly forbidding informed channels? How smug do they get? Do FAM uninformed spec chat channels get smug? Lol.
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tutuu check discord
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FTR my frustration was informed by the fact that I wolfread Kyubey immediately before becoming informed (and only joined informed chat because it wanted to use me as a wall to rant at lol; my reaction upon finding out was âyeah I knewâ; there is a reason it killed me first)
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My main frustration was ultimately not that you townread Kyubey but that you seemed to decide the player who hasnât lost a wolfgame in four years wasnât difficult to read
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Like Iâve lost to it before even knowing that so itâs not. Like it matters that much. I think you wouldâve lost to Kyubey no matter how much you respected it. But it just felt like everybody stepped into the game and put horseblinders on about the 2021 best scum player
BUT my criticism is not especially needed here. I just wanted to explain cause you asked
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Thats valid and im also frustrated at myself for that. Day 1. Day 2-3 felt much harder to win and im not sure what more a single player could have done from that point on
I do not think that Kyubey surviving to F4 in a vig 10 er is indicative of âwtf are they doing for letting him aliveâ. This wasnât a Mountainous 15er theres a huge difference in game speed
Or like âKyubey sounding good = why tf are u townreading him forâ. If you never try to townread kyubey are u just gonna never townread him or what. Policy him in late game if town is losing? Did that not happen to him in Beatings 3. Was town not criticized for it
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I picked my strategy (trying to look like the vig and get shot, cause I thought this playerlist wouldnât nightkill me and Iâd get executed otherwise) and reaped the consequence (couldnât talk anymore)
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I think you were weighing Kyubey sounding good wrong. I think you shouldâve weighed it much less than, for example, Brad being in town meta or Jar claiming vig or whatnot. I think your probabilistic weightings were off
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You can townread Kyubey for sounding good but ultimately players with great wolfgames are much more difficult to clear than players with less-great wolfgames, and thatâs a fact of life.
I think you were kinda trying to âapply the same standard to all playersâ in a sense here? âIt feels bad to punish Kyubey for being a great wolf and so if it does towny things Iâm going to townread it like everybody elseâ. But you canât be entirely fair
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Shrug. I think the game was basically unwinnable with the combo of Frost shooting Hippo and Brad giving up, itâs whatever. But in the counterfactual where that didnât happen, it was winnable and you were on the wrong track
Im not arguing that i didnt play poorly, my original post was me venting my frustration at the assumption of immunity to bias, assumptions aggravate me, but yes, if we go on a tangent, these are things i could have done better, i appreciate those thoughts
mafia
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