FAM5 - Thread 2 - Day 2

[RetrogradeDusk]

@RetrogradeDusk

You are quoting me telegraphing a vote on Apo first thing. Which reasonings.

@tutuu

You literally said you didn’t want Apo to get high (votes).

@RetrogradeDusk

I Said I voted Pidgeon because the Apo wagon made me uncomfortable but that I unvoted because I didn’t want to defend them (wolfy).

@chloe

[Memekingpizza]

If it’s like someone went to the dead body kind go ahead. But if you really really believe it could change the course of the game go ahead. Otherwise just use that knowledge to help us with your reads since it’s mech and we love mech

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

I don’t actually exist I just wanted to say hi

[Luka]

Shotlist:

• Whatdafucc
• Frostwolf
• Tutuu → retro if Tutuu!V

Second Priority Shots:

• Tepig
• Beancat

Gira shields these people:

• Marluna
• Selkie

[Luka]

hey

[Atlas]

@Magnus

In the last two years I have been shot during ITA sessions due to questionable concerns over my actions when I could’ve outright confirmed and assuaged said uncertainties, yet remained unable to do so due to my absence at those times. This year , I will not be here during ITA session 2 when I’d ordinary he present during that window. I am throwing this out now so that history does not repeat itself.

Frustrated opener, which is mildly good

@Magnus

Tutuu feels uncomfortable and performative in all their preceding messages. Their first three messages alone clarify and defend their coming absence and explain worries against possibly being accused of lurking by pointing out their likes first — hyperalert attributes present-wrapped in the guise of “it’s so hard paying attention to this game”. The Chloe townread feels drawn out and unnatural because it stretches out content which isn’t there with analogies and comparison to other players instead of saying “w!Chloe wouldn’t speak like this” — but even that’s insubstantial because I don’t know if Tutuu and Chloe have ever played alongside each other in a non-mash game.

I really like this post but the problem is I shouldn’t cause it’s Magnus
Magnus loves to get super tricky and pushes hero options all the time, or otherwise mess around, as town. As wolf they play very well, and it was my main concern about them from this message

@Magnus

Atlas’ ISO runs productively and worthwhile with trackable perspective shifts which helps out a lot to rationalise a town viewpoint in my head. Atlas used to behave differently as evil, demonstrating a greater degree of reticence compared to being town, which I can’t quite compare here — yet basically, if Atlas seeks a position of managerial direction and doesn’t let up, I’d just let them run as desired. Atlas is useful.

This is a read I’ve quoted before, and the final is sorta similar to one Magnus has made about me generally

@Magnus

Litten isn’t being useful ‘though I can’t really blame him for getting lost in the sauce and struggling to keep his head afloat. We’ll see how things change.

This was just objectively correct for D1.

@Magnus

It’s less regarding the words themselves and more so the mindset I’d imagine myself to be in to say them. Those messages specifically exist to justify past and future behaviour, which is a defensive attribute thereby stemming from discomfort; and the read feels conspired so Tutuu could just have a message of substance out there and visible no matter how fabricated it reads.

This is about the same read I had on tutuu which made me feel weird, but Magnus said earlier that I helped them justify their spots when they ISO’d me

@Magnus

Ignore that I’m responding to Neil, I got lost.

This is mildly town AI considering I think Magnus isn’t the type of person to dislike perfection as wolf, and would prolly just open up another quote

@Magnus

@BradLand

It’s been like 2 or 3 years since we played together I wouldn’t remember that.

Mistyx / Brad could be feasibly partnered from the above interaction. The latter making a halfhearted indecisive judgment on the former, the former responding in a direct, albeit not accusatory way, and Brad just sorta skedaddles and resigns in response to pursue other leads.

This is another decent read from Brad looking weird but I’m under the opinion it isn’t AI for Mistyx, just a good catch

@Magnus

Zugzwang can be Mafia. I recognise most players will not seek to infiltrate this game’s every seam, yet even ignoring the idle opener where he just sorta vibed (which is NAI), he’s mostly been a god of the gaps.

this is also a. really good read. which magnus only seems to do as wolf and it’s a bit scary

@Magnus

…I blame trusting my fallible memory to add superficial detail to my messages rather than checking once more.

this is towny and thus why I asked

@Magnus

I’ll volunteer, sure.

I think this is largely NAI, Magnus could’ve easily figured out that whatever the prize was wasn’t very strong due to pattern and that the event wasn’t particularly skill based

@Magnus

@Daeron

Hazard was a lot more serious and less relaxed as scum which I picked up on immediately

I straight-up have the opposite experience that w!Hazard will usually just cease to exist at times whilst v!Hazard is aggressive as a hound; although we’re pulling from different titles.

This is more about Hazard than Magnus, but it’s worth noting Hazard has been pretty relaxed so far: but it’s prolly better to wait until clocktowercons end to see about him in particular

@Magnus

Hazard’s a bad execution even if he is Mafia due to the self-resolving claim unless his behaviour conclusively aligns with being evil (to the degree that he’s more likely to be Mafia than a coinflip, bad decisions can still be rewarded, and I’d trust Kiiruma to make a correct judgment on specifically Hazard if that’s all he does).
It’s the sort of bad vote you’d mainly see coming from villagers who don’t care about every face-up logical facet which makes sense from a v!Tutuu perspective, but I wouldn’t call the wagon clear because Brad’s on it and I don’t know about Nutella or MKP. Catbae townreads the latter iirc, yet that’s not a defining feature here.

The wagons are probably fine for now aside from that, although ideally we’d have the other half voting as well.

but this shows that magnus is consistent with what they said above about hazard

On a final note

FAM5 - Thread 1 - Day 1

Silviu claimed a greencheck on Atlas so I would remove them from the shotlist at minimum.

Magnus said this, but also said

FAM5 - Thread 1 - Day 1

No you don’t yet you’re awesome for saying this even so.

I’m honestly under the impression Magnus is correct and Silviu is just making an odd play since they either want to see my reactions or trust me, but it means Magnus went out of their time to defend Silviu with something they think is wrong, which I think is towny for them

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If I were to entirely ignore meta, I think Magnus is really towny. If exactly what I’m thinking occurred with them provided they’re town, it’s prolly an easy good player, but besides, it makes me worried that Magnus is in their wolf meta of sounding very smart. I think a lot hinges on a few flips, since Magnus isn’t very big on bussing.

[Frostwolf103]

@Atlas

this is just the wrong way to read her

Oh totally, but I know a wolf when I see one

Did you know Leafia can also defend wolves?

[tepig19283]

once again threadspewed cuz nobody wanna interact with me (ill mention this everytime, btw)

[Chloe]

god all the ppl im sus of for voting apo are claiming its cuz they didnt like the pigeon wagon

[Atlas]

here’s my iso on you

i’m referring to this part

@Atlas

Silviu claimed a greencheck on Atlas so I would remove them from the shotlist at minimum.

Magnus said this, but also said

No you don’t yet you’re awesome for saying this even so.

I’m honestly under the impression Magnus is correct and Silviu is just making an odd play since they either want to see my reactions or trust me, but it means Magnus went out of their time to defend Silviu with something they think is wrong, which I think is towny for them

[Gocj]

Willow holds ur hand did you roll wolf dont lie lying is bad

[Luka]

Id bus apo if i were a wolf /shrug

[Atlas]

@Frostwolf103

Did you know Leafia can also defend wolves?

Nope!

[Kork]

hi

[soweli]

can confirm this happened in the BoTC game and uh. well. hm. tepig was an alignment. don’t worry about it.

[CarrotyReaper]

was your wizard wish just whimsical or

[tepig19283]

OK, what if apo lolcatted because there was a stronger wolf role in contention?

[Wazza]

taking word as gospel from those I townread

current full list but don't shoot anyone in it because they're in it because that's not what this list is for it's a ""discussion for shot list" list"

beancat
childe
DramaMillMisc (Alt thing, probably unshootable, don’t shoot ig)
Dz1
ElizaThePsycho
ExtremeWays
Frostwolf103
gori
Hazardwaste
Italy
Jarek
Kelsier
Kiiruma
Kork @Gocj
krii
LittleLee @Gocj
lol
Magnus @Mistyx
Marluna
nutella @soweli
pandora
RetrogradeDusk
Selkie
soweli
spookycat27
Tasqar
tepig19283
thepigeonnyc (Getting shot by MK at the start of ITAs)
tutuu
whatdafucc
Wisdom

Okay so I’ve lowered it slightly more (And i’m gonna try and rapidly get this done since ITA’s aren’t that long away)

I’ve pinged people who I want to explain why they want those specific people removed

I think I might’ve missed some things just then but that’s because I can’t find some posts for some reason idk discourse hates me

remember to let me know anyone else you guys think should definitely be removed

[Gocj]

Amelia? Dead

[tepig19283]

what wizard wish?