FAM5 - Thread 4 - Day 3

[sulit]

I picked extreme bc Chloe townread meme

[Frostwolf103]

I currently asked Relm where MKP is voting the ‘wrong’ wagons, on EoD it doesnt look wrong. I am currently looking up for evidence if MKP is wolf or not. Plenty of stuff can happen beyond the grave.

[Silviu200530]

Are you tired

[sulit]

YES

[Selkie]

i think sulit looks okay off of that event?

[Frostwolf103]

@Memekingpizza

Extreme Passes to

Carb
Meme
Forced
Meme
Hero
Forced
Forced
Forced

I was writing down all the passes of the event incase a mafia flipped so here you go from round one to the last round these what they did during the game.

Hmm what is relm and leafia even agreeing to…?

[Leafia]

Not really as good as you think. Why’d it take Sulit so long to decide to give the one shot vig to EW to give to Hippo? It should’ve been a nobrainer.

[Selkie]

they still ended up killing a wolf though idk how suspected sulit was to like. idk if they could have gotten away with saving EW or not

[soweli]

Sigh.

[Jane]

Here are votes from d1 that stood out as suspicious to me

@RetrogradeDusk

Apo could have had a couple wolfy posts very early but meh I don’t necessarily actually wolfread them.

Atlas’s reads/thread interaction feels not wolf shaped.

Leafia (5): RetrogradeDusk, Ratchet, Apocryphal, HeroShotter9000, Wisdom
Zugzwang (4): soweli, spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, catbae, Ephemera, Luka
Hazardwaste (4): Memekingpizza, BradLand, nutella, tutuu
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Kork (3): Willow, carbonated, CarrotyReaper
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (26): Kork, benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Litten, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Atlas, Willow, YoubutWorse, neil_the_eel, Gocj

@RetrogradeDusk

I’m going to VOTE: Amelia but might switch onto a leading wagon.

Apocryphal (4): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Apocryphal, HeroShotter9000, Wisdom
Zugzwang (4): ImaginaryNeon, catbae, Ephemera, Luka
Hazardwaste (4): Memekingpizza, BradLand, nutella, tutuu
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (28): Kork, benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Litten, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Atlas, Willow, YoubutWorse, neil_the_eel, Gocj, Willow, gori

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: Leafia

If wagons start on Amelia/Carroty I might switch.

Zugzwang (5): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90, catbae
Leafia (5): Ratchet, Apocryphal, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk, tutuu
Hazardwaste (3): Memekingpizza, BradLand, nutella
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (27): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Litten, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, neil_the_eel, Gocj, Willow, gori, Kork

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: beancat

Zugzwang (5): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90, catbae
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Apocryphal, Wisdom, tutuu
Hazardwaste (3): Memekingpizza, BradLand, nutella
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (27): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Litten, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, neil_the_eel, Gocj, Willow, gori, Kork

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: Amelia

Zugzwang (5): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90, catbae
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, HeroShotter9000
Hazardwaste (3): Memekingpizza, BradLand, nutella
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Amelia (3): Luka, RetrogradeDusk, Litten
Kork (3): carbonated, CarrotyReaper, Mistxx
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (24): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, Willow, gori, Kork

@BradLand

VOTE: Pqwerty

Zugzwang (5): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90, catbae
Pqwerty (4): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc, BradLand
Amelia (4): Luka, RetrogradeDusk, Litten, tutuu
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, HeroShotter9000
Kork (3): carbonated, CarrotyReaper, Mistxx
Hazardwaste (2): Memekingpizza, nutella
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera

Not Voting (24): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang

@BradLand

VOTE: Amelia

@BradLand

VOTE: Willow

I’ll show support.

Zugzwang (5): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, Cape90, catbae
Amelia (4): Luka, RetrogradeDusk, Litten, tutuu
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, HeroShotter9000
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (24): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: Leafia

Zugzwang (4): spookycat27, Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Wisdom, HeroShotter9000, RetrogradeDusk
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Amelia (3): Luka, Litten, tutuu
Kelsier (3): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90
Kork (2): carbonated, CarrotyReaper
Hazardwaste (2): Memekingpizza, nutella
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (24): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, pandora, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang

@nutella

VOTE: Amelia kinda feeling this even if boring

Amelia (4): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella
Zugzwang (3): Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Kelsier (3): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90
Apocryphal (3): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (25): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza, HeroShotter9000

@tepig19283

VOTE: Amelia

Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, tepig19283
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora, Leafia
Zugzwang (3): Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
Kelsier (3): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (25): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Kiiruma, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza, HeroShotter9000

@neil_the_eel

sure
VOTE: Kelsier

Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, tepig19283
Kelsier (4): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90, neil_the_eel
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora, Leafia
Zugzwang (3): Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
Leafia (3): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (24): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza, HeroShotter9000

@Kiiruma

VOTE: Kelsier

Out of the slots I think this one tells me more than the others and I don’t exactly read this town as particularly towny.

@RetrogradeDusk

I’m at Apo likely wolf if Amelia w, Zug likely wolf if Amelia V and possibly both w. Zug is probably objectively wolfier.

Leafia and Heroshotter should always be considered a difference check and if they both wind up flipping town then we just roll with it.

Kelsier (6): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90, neil_the_eel, Kiiruma, Marluna
Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, tepig19283
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora, Leafia
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk, HeroShotter9000
Zugzwang (3): Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
Pqwerty (3): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (23): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, YoubutWorse, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza

@YoubutWorse

uhhh idk which of my wolfreads are spicy

im gonna throw them all in a list but i dont actually value them all the same

cape (tbh not strong but my gut still going Eh when i see them)
luka (i dont know if i scumread them or im just frustrated with them, i think its the latter lmao)
Litten (idk why people are so eager to townread this cat like Every game. why is there no paranoia here. i try to push back a little and i feel like i just double dipped in front of everyone at a party)
ephe (not actually a scumlean more so than “i think this player is townread and i never saw why”)
pigeon (treatment from pqwerty was strange)
pqwerty (now that i think about it i like REALLY don’t like this slot lol)
meme (there was something here that set off bad vibes but i dont remember what)
ruby (posting feels different. zug disagreed but i still think im onto something)
thats about it
actually think i dislike pqerty the most and its got a bit more wagon equity than i thought looking at the votecount so

VOTE: pqwerty

Kelsier (6): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90, neil_the_eel, Kiiruma, Marluna
Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, tepig19283
Pqwerty (5): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc, YoubutWorse, Ruby
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora, Leafia
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk, HeroShotter9000
Zugzwang (3): Magnus, LittleLee, catbae
[wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (22): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza

@BradLand

VOTE: Pqwerty

Kelsier (6): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90, neil_the_eel, Kiiruma, Marluna
Pqwerty (6): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc, YoubutWorse, Ruby, BradLand
Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, tepig19283
Apocryphal (4): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera, pandora, Leafia
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk, HeroShotter9000
lol (3): Chloe, Jane, catbae
Zugzwang (2): Magnus, LittleLee
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (22): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Memekingpizza

@pandora

VOTE: Amelia

Kelsier (7): Gocj, Apocryphal, Cape90, neil_the_eel, Kiiruma, Marluna, Leafia
Pqwerty (7): whatdafucc, Frostwolf103, thepigeonnyc, YoubutWorse, Ruby, BradLand, spookycat27
Amelia (5): Luka, Litten, tutuu, nutella, pandora
Leafia (4): Ratchet, Wisdom, RetrogradeDusk, HeroShotter9000
lol (3): Chloe, Jane, catbae
Apocryphal (2): ImaginaryNeon, Ephemera
Zugzwang (2): Magnus, LittleLee
[other wagons with less than 3 votes omitted]

Not Voting (23): benguinedparbecue, Amelia, beancat, sulit, Selkie, Garfooled, childe, Hazardwaste, Italy, Relm, iamagummybear, TheBlueElixir, krii, Tasqar, Dz1, ExtremeWays, DramaMillMisc, Willow, gori, Kork, Zugzwang, Willow, carbonated

@RetrogradeDusk

If Pqwerty’s wagon is bad it doesn’t look good for Amelia regardless so I think I vote Amelia here always.

VOTE: Amelia

For a sec.

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: Kelsier

I’d like to vote a wagon that isn’t behind by a vote.

@RetrogradeDusk

VOTE: Amelia

@tepig19283

VOTE: Amelia

though it’s definitely possible I missed some, my brain was turning to mush during this

RetrogradeDusk, BradLand, nutella, tepig19283, neil_the_eel, Kiiruma, YoubutWorse, pandora

I would look closer at these players
I do think some of these are legacy town from strong dead villagers though

[Selkie]

also i don’t wanna read all of that thread but it’s kinda bad that EW kept meme for later in the competition twice right? by passing before they were at the end

mkp only did that once for EW

[Jane]

Yeah, it is suspicious

[Leafia]

There’s no way they would’ve gotten away with it.

[pandora]

morning!

[Leafia]

Now to head out for a bit for foods.

[pandora]

sad i just missed leafia

[pandora]

they should invent a thread that is easy to read

[Jane]

Also, I didn’t get until the end of day, I stopped around 8000

I’ll continue it later

[Jane]

@Jane

Yeah, it is suspicious

I doubt Meme is actually Mafia though

[Frostwolf103]

@Memekingpizza

I don’t like this wanting it to randVOTE: Apocryphal it seems pairing

Apocryphal (11): Ephemera, Mistyx, Chloe, HeroShotter9000, iamagummybear, Leafia, neil_the_eel, BradLand, TheBlueElixir, Kork, Memekingpizza

(This is before Amelia’s wagon begin to form, pigeon was the CW at that time)
Neil and Bradland moved the votes out, below are the votes at the end

@FAMHost

nutella, soweli, catbae, Wisdom, Wazza, benguinedparbecue, Gocj, Cape90, RetrogradeDusk

(The counter-wagon before it gets dissipated)
thepigeonnyc (11): catbae, Luka, tutuu, Apocryphal, Litten, Relm, Zugzwang, Creature, soweli, nutella, bystander

@FAMHost

thepigeonnyc (3): Relm, Creature, Kork