Just have everyone shoot pandora and if theyre town boohoo
ok bye FR
Do you have a gth read on me yet? Simplest explanation.
oh no if luka went to sleep do i need to control the ita session
Votecount:
Italy (8): soweli, nutella, TheBlueElixir, ImaginaryNeon, BradLand, Cape90, Frostwolf103, Luka
Creature (4): Pqwerty, neil_the_eel, Ruby, Luka
ImaginaryNeon (1): ImaginaryNeon
pandora (1): Leafia
RetrogradeDusk (1): Magnus
Kiiruma (1): Atlas
Luka (1): Wazza
YoubutWorse (1): tepig19283
Not Voting (19): carbonated, sulit, Selkie, Silviu200530, thepigeonnyc, Italy, LittleLee, Relm, lol, Psyx, pandora, RetrogradeDusk, Memekingpizza, iamagummybear, Kiiruma, YoubutWorse, Jane, Daeron, Creature
why havent you killed someone yet
you know you want to
Iâm assuming Jarek only poisoned once and then another mafia member has another poison right now
I wasnât reading, wanted to get a shot off, and I had my gigantic ITA shot ritual to do which takes longer for me to do on FOL.
Whatâs your read on me gth with simple explanation as well.
im ngl itâs mostly bc i assumed iâd be asleep by now and i mentally processed that iâd be shooting in ita3 and not this session
Remember not to doomer
We are winning, even in pure mech numbers - and that doesnât consider we have 4 threads worth of content and established info already
I like how most of your posts (at least in D3) are solving oriented so if weâre "culling fat, youâd be more of an asset for the next Day phases than not. So gth town, wonât shoot you
Summary
===Mafia Lean
Daeron
Zug
RetroDusk
I am absolutely happy to vote
VOTE: Wazza
Wazza attempting to pressure me into voting specifically nutella is also very suspicious
I donât see why continuing to inquire about this is relevant at all, by the way.
Also carroty putting me in mafia lean for 0 reason is also scum indicative. Kill carroty asap, that is not a real thought
I guess i just sorta understand wazzaâs pov because that votecount WOULD have proven you
are you just OMGUSing???
No, you canât just use buzzwords to defend yourself
You need to substantiate your scumlean on me because I have quite literally been targeted with a scum silent ITA and also vanillised by them
I put mafia leaning because I thought wazza had a point. but also that list was a quick list where nobody had reasons so I think you saying âkill carroty because they didnât put a reason thereâ is maybe the most absurd thing Iâve ever read today
I already checked
This vote counts as an EOD votecount
Thereâs a reason I asked so your doublevote wouldâve absolutely shown if it shows at end of day
Kyoâs saying Iâm making it out like heâs scum because he wouldnât have shown as a doublevoter on the votecount anyway
When he wouldâve, because that votecount counts as if it was an EOD votecount
I donât see why you would be so insistent on me voting IMMEDIATELY rather than just waiting until actual EoD comes around? It reeks of âpredict target player votes X during the day, and get mechanical benefit if soâ
Your persistence & insistence makes absolutely no sense especially on someone who is already spewed town by Rachet flip
Because if you donât have a doublevote youâre scum and it would be better to kill you sooner rather than later?
What question is this?
WHAT??
How does me not having a double vote equate to me being scum? LMAO.
why not just ask them to vote on a gladiate target then?
nutella⌠was⌠a gladiate target?
ye but I mean just saying to daeron vote either way because wouldnât them voting bystander also show they are double voter
And then Kyoâs doublevote wouldâve been muddled with others, there could be 13 other people that could also have a doublevote that wouldâve interferred
at least the other one was safer to assume
Okay that makes sense thank you
Iâm like entirely confused by Kyoâs reason to suspect me but shrug as long as his vote stays isolated Iâm not bothered
I think the bottom line is that if Wazza was actually trying to deduce my alignment from this, theyâd have waited until EoD instead
They didnât
Also, they have absolutely NO clue what ability theyâre even referencing. How donât they know a hypothetical extra vote wouldnât only apply specifically on Sundays?
Solving off of this is ridiculously unproductive and doesnât even work. Kelsier, carroty & Wazza all jumping the gun are people with not real thoughts on me and are instead just very thirsty mafia after we wiped four of them out today for a very rare mislynch which theyâre not going to get on someone their team had spewed town
Because you said this
You clearly indicated that today your vote is different EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE you were vanillarized
This is not a hard assumption to make
And if your role doesnât allow you to vote twice again, thatâs an entirely different problem because this means you lied that you being vanillarized is the entire reason you donât have two votes
Theyâre also attempting to equate me having or not having an extra vote today to my alignment, and completely reject the possibility of me not having a double vote as town, which is ridiculous because as I said before they have no idea where the vote yesterday even came from so the fact theyâre appearing to try to solve off of it makes me think theyâre not actually solving off of it
Is being concerned with proving I was vanillised a problem? No. Absolutely not. The massive amount of people except specifically Carroty, Kelsier & Wazza who have witch hunted me instead decided to do the reasonable thing and wait
There is nothing that stops Wazza having an ability which says âpredict X player to vote X player - if successful, gain mech benefitâ - the Rhea role literally had that as a mechanic.
Iâm literally the one who was calling you locktown 5 seconds before I asked you to vote because it was so easy to prove lmfao where is this assumption coming from
Iâm also literally the one saying we shouldnât do anything like kill you today because you still can prove yourself.
Iâm giving you every single chance to prove yourself yet youâre getting hung up about one thing for literally no reason all because you refused to prove yourself which is entirely on you.
You can say itâs because âoh wow Wazza could be this, Wazza could be thatâ except for the fact Iâve proved my actions and what Iâve done, sure I could have something else but I think this is a completely unfounded assumption
And if something happened to you because of who you voted, itâd just be completely fucking obvious and why on earth would I choose you and not someone else with a much more obvious vote?
Youâre not special, get off your high horse and stop thinking you are
Anyways Iâm going to no longer engage with Votegate anymore because itâs complete nonsense and instead actually do something more productive than this fiasco worthy of a Drama Mill Misc post provoked by none other than Wazza
@neil_the_eel as a word of warning: itâs an extended debacle.
Probably the towniest normal thing to say in this scenario.
Donât finish them off.
gth town, mostly residual from thinking ur towny d1
Silviu is wolfy for ignoring and not greeting me (jkjk)
im not going to lie i donât think i really see that but mostly just bc in retrospect i think i agree with their take of like âif daeron can confirm the vote there, why didnât that happenâ. like genuinely that might be the towniest thing in wazzaâs iso
Ok, I really need to go to work now. I hope I can live at least until the 3rd session so I can use my shot/make more reads but if not, thatâs fine too glhf
Carroty spew is shading town and then not mechanically assigning their shit to that
Their Readslist
Uh, so quickly I think, okay I need to look at player list
===Town Read
Atlas
Gocj
===Town lean
Brad
Luka
Soweli
Jarek
===Null
Willow
ImaginaryNeon
===Mafia Lean
Daeron
Zug
RetroDusk
===Mafiathis is who I remember
Zug hasnât really been saying much after yesterday like idt they made a mechanical post yet which is weird imo (while I recall they said mechanical stuff day 1 and way more at that lett me check)
mhm I donât think I like them much due to this (and like most of their post yesterday were not fluff from checking)
So hesistant to call out their partner
I wonder if Carroty presents that anywhere else
Whereas on townies:
The world is mostly just assuming apo is mafia though? and you were defending your fellow mafia?
Carroty is way more decisive
I think Carroty spew might be so easy to read
wait why are we not killing pigeon or smthing
Pigeon is probably town from it
Not an incorrect read persay.
It aligns with my perception that you havenât tried to solve me recently for you to think my d1 was townier than my later days. My d1 was probably less towny if anything so almost confirms you arenât trying to read my slot or are absorbing influence around my slot heavily.
Not sure that makes you alignment yet but my vibe was correct.