If the wolves planned to bus Hippo, then there would never have been an attempted CFD to carbonated.
Eve being a wolf is the only way EoD 1 makes sense. She tried very hard to save Hippo. Then she suddenly switched to him at the last second. You don’t do that if you’re a villager. A villager wouldn’t have switched gheir vote to Hippo like that at the very least.
Sometimes solves are just obvious to everyone.
It’s always Eve first here. Better chance at glipping a wolf.
If you want to convince yourself soweli is town, read through how she handles hippo’s mason claim. She’s convinced hippo’s partner might be me, willow, or eve. That doesn’t come from w!soweli who has tmi that hippo is fakeclaiming mason
I only saw the top 10ish names and you sent this right when i sent my post about soweli so i interpreted it as your readslist and was confused why soweli was so low
This reminds me of that time in Urgency where someone mistook some’s towncore as a shotlist at first. Laughs Good times. I’ve improved a ton since then.
Like this is just very believable from t!soweli who has hippo’s mason partner narrowed down to a few people but is having those possibilities thrown into disarray.
not even entertaining this one. you ~have to treat the lurking as IRL-related as NAI and in tandem assume wolves won’t abuse this line of thought because it’s just antithetical to the point of mafia, which is not winning but for the game to be fun. & the slot’s readable otherwise. sucks that it is not able to share the meta but like.
Pandora comes in & says
& then she disappears. fine? i don’t think the conflict about claiming partner means anything.
lilith comes in: votecount is
Not Voting (4): Willow, Kiiruma, beancat, melatonin
so it is already rather doomed! catbae has already been pushing the 'it is mechanically optimal not to vote out hippo" but it’s not even convincing catbae, hippo has said ‘adieu’ but continues to post in short it does not look good!
Compiling lilith’s arguments for saving hippo (this is pretty much all of them give or take some wordingG):
this is bog-standard logic, the wolf-siding is in choosing to apply it here; hanging somebody else leads to a stagnant and/or quickhammered d2 & possibly gives mafia another chance to miselim. If Eve is wolf, she is either trying to save hippo, or trying to look towny by not bussing him. Second is a lot trickier but you know I’ve been townreading Eve I’ve been high-motivation, I am generally sensible enough to guess that hippo was bussed, i have decent threadpull, it’s not too hard to predict. Probably just not worth it in most scenarios but it is an option. technically.
However then we look at the circumstances and it does not seem likely that Eve would have high hopes of saving Hippo here? Things are not looking good for hippo as noted earlier & it’s a lot easier to just go ‘lol mason claim’ and keep going. (It’s also worth noting there is a very feasible town ‘i have seen stupider things happen, hanging v!hippo is so avoidable’ logic here but w!eve is relying on that paranoia as well so it’s not towny but not wolfy). I think the town perspective is so viable here even if not necessarily moreso than a wolf one that I forgive the wolfsiding in a vaccuum.
& the turn-around (kinda)
(specifically about hippo saying mason partner not in thread; hippo is still far away in the lead so this doesn’t seem like a drive to get him more bussed, it could be a spontaneous hippo decision but this seems really weird if there’s any communication going on between Eve & Hippo about how this is playing out
(note the votecount is 6/6 plus willow: if carbon is town this is a really bad moment to switch, this is at best eve cutting her losses. If carbon is wolf this is hippo & eve realizing hippo needs to die & so mason theater)
left without comment, at this point eve still seemingly had hippo pretty solidly as town but like. i like this post generally in terms of everyone’s favorite, not showing TMI on hippo’s alignment.
idk what you mean by this, you’re each levvying it at each other but eve mogs you sorry. like yes by getting too into this it’s bad but it’s also a very towny pull i don’t care (& you tend to be the one initiating the goings-on)
First of all ‘egregiously’ is just never true.
Context: lilith made meta read, tutuu was like ‘wehhh’ and said “you’re basing this off one scum game” (arguing that he does it as both alignments). This is literally just the two of you being annoying about semantics the point is that she wants more wolfgames to shore up the wolfread
though also, this is towny from eve imho. instead of just hard pushing and ignoring tutuu its trying to work with him to reach greater understanding
yea eve is just right here & then you go on to say ‘actually you should use more than one game’ (this is what eve was saying)
Eve keeps winning
miaw
assorted towny posts
mm. ok i’m actually not sure what to think of this one like i generally do buy the annoyance (though had it as fakeable) but i don’t know what it means in the context of Eve then proceeding to not lock in for like 20 posts.
(in response to a readslist) like. i don’t know what this is getting at & I think it’s towny-- tutuu beaming into my brain: wow soweli so i can just say nonsense and get townread for you by it
okok. so like. i think this has decentt w/w equity in that context it’s a post that’s supposed to seem unpairing and/or making fun of gummy for being bad with spew.
if Eve is mafia this is… setup for a later push? I feel like Eve would articulate what this meant better as wolf, whereas I can generally see town being more ‘i notice that this is happening & it reminds me of wolfplay, noting this down for future reference’. Slim but like pretty much zero chance this is done intentionally to look towny?
In this post Eve players the role of the eagle to 36501’s dodent but lethargic about it; i’m slightly hesitant towards townreading this after the kiiruma thing but there is really something to the “this doesn’t seem like it’s true but it would be awesome if it was (because i wouldn’t have to do anything)” if eve’s wolf this is probably a read it’s used to making. I also think the melatonin townread is very good particularly with the juke out of the shade earlier.
(melatonin pt. 3 but at tutuu)
hm. (calling willow not-unpaired-with-hippo at tutuu)
miaw miaw
This makes sense to me (except i was also comparing it to what i thought was a jaiden towngame but might’ve been wazza beatings 3 (It doesn’t seem like it was?) i should check this)
she also keeps going on this you’ve got to at least respect her & it’s not unproductive to do so
above section is mostly there because dunking on tutuu is not in fact a towntell.
wait lowkey if eve is interested i can be a… dependent contractor w/rt the meta