People have done some silly goofy claims, some reads have been provided but there’s not much of note. I think as wolf you’d just commit to the backread despite it doing nothing really so that’s slightly towny but nothing special, I think it’s in your range either way and you know it x3
should’ve specified it’s an ordered list (except i am taking creative liberties so that it’s not strictly ordered but if one player is significantly above another player they are townier)
i do generally think everybody there is towny to some degree (except dia why did i put them there was it really the ‘seems more relaxed than aprilshowersforlorn’)
special containment area is roughly the ‘i kinda think they’re wolfy but for not very good reasons that I do not think it would be productive to get into and as such will not be really acting on it for now’
This is true! I acknowledge that you are correct, I just think it’s slightly town but like 0.1% more town than wolf for Hip to not commit since I know Hip tends to like committing to a bit sometimes.
not sure if this is what you meant by that last clause but hippo’s backread felt (<- i.e. there were at least 2 concrete examples and possibly more) like a lot of unoriginal thoughts that were proven as such by the fact they were resolved within a few posts and it was both kinda boring & wolfy. (I support backreading! I do not support live-posting your backread especially when it’s boring)
Also really underselling what happened in thread imo; are your expectations big flashy wagons & drama?
strange opening from jason feels uncharacteristic but whatever openings are never ai for qbcorders proven theory
hm don’t hydras usually sign though, i’m not a fan of this evasiveness. it sounds more believable coming from gummy though (i’m pretty sure i can tell the difference between the two anyway but yk)
What i’m getting is that they do sound. like. very different. even as a hydra. so it’s two headspaces we can probe out of which is fun
i’m not a fan of this reasoning it feels sudden, and out of nowhere. Like, I understand where catbae said oh jason is being jumpy but also, this sounds like it could be an excuse to tag on, so no townpoints gained here necessarily.
feels a little overexplainy but i can see it as really frustrated t!jason tbh
Post #78 with dia’s early claim - not going to reiterate the discussion on VT/non-VT roles here on FoL, although I kind of just generally take everything dia says with a grain of salt although that could mean that that is a blindspot for me. Although #82 catbae saying it “sounds like a scum role” is ??? to me. But then he has been pretty aggro fast, idk his playstyle but it does feel bold for a wolf so lighter townlean. I don’t think this is AI for dia anyway.
doesn’t feel forced, so kiiruma/eve seems an unlikely w/w pair
…dangnabbit scooped by catbae on #191
i don’t know what you’re expecting from d1 tbh there is a reasonable about of discussion about reads and suspicion from the active players
the only thing we’re missing is discussion from the 50% of players who have not yet contributed substantial alignment- and partnership-indicative content, yourself included
Eve - I’m kinda biased but if Eve dies and is W, Eve literally didn’t realise I existed which is positive for me since then it soft outs me as good. Overall the slot has been decently neutral from posts I’ve read, some which are town-ish, some which are more wolf-ish (Yes I can expand upon this, also I know that yall are going to be annoyed I’m fence sitting but deal with it)
Hippo - I’d commented about Hip already and my thought on Hip going slightly non-committal being a tiny bit towny. I think Hip’s a slot who needs time to get a stronger read on and some of the votes early on felt more like pressure than actual suspicion regarding Hip so
TBH I think those who have voted are for the most part good players trying to generate discussion and encourage people to vote and play more. I’ve not seen anything I’d call ‘agenda’ strongly.
As for melatonin voting on yourself, I find it interesting. I like how you know dia a bit and others have information regarding yourself there but I don’t think that it’s evil pushing on you, I think it’s the fact you’ve decided to do some more reaction testing things that might’ve made some more uncertain than usual.
i agree that i haven’t felt a lot of agenda from the game, nobody’s really pushing anything super strongly, it’s kind of impossible for a wolf to feel threatened in this state
maybe i’ll just divide this into a few hundred post chunks so i don’t do my classic [wallposts the entire screen over twice]
starting from 210…
i feel like this is not necessarily true since i just opened past qbcord games to prove if this is true or not, so my first choice to open was katseye mafia, where dia said basically 0 things game related for their first 60 posts and was mafia. Granted it’s discord, so it’s not like you have to think before you post that much as opposed to discourse, but still.
#274 - not going to spend forever going back and replying to every part of Leafia’s post here but let’s just say i generally like her thinking + agree with her points and so +towny points
I’m still frustrated by Leafia deciding to claim VT at the start but I don’t think it’s necessarily AI.
Town Leafia does it as an early cred grab and to maybe inform a Neapolitan so that can cause confirmation. It’s also interesting because Neapolitan specifically checks for vanilla town vs non vanilla town, not even ‘vanilla goons’ which could be useful should Leafia’s claim be truthful and/or there be other vanillas.
Wolf Leafia does it to test reactions and to try and say ‘Oh I claimed early, you don’t need to worry about my actions’ plus Leafia knows this but I tend to find that Leafia in general is easier to read on D2/D3 than D1 since Leafia’s a fairly… lackadaisical player.
I think dia admitting to lie about the one part but not the other is unsurprising but it’s not really that telling of ‘town’ because both myself and Willow had commented how the claim as a whole was illogical and didn’t fit the ‘List of Vanilla Roles’ or a similar vibe there.
Based on the discussion from jason, t!dia often would true claim so it’s weird that dia chose to lie and I’m unsure what to make of that discrepancy and it seems like melatonin had a different interpretation of things so even those who know dia don’t seem to know what it truly means >.>
Overall these aren’t ‘reads’ on either of them, but this is information about my thoughts regarding them in general.