Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 4 [11/17]

See if you can find the colored readlist, but I might wanna update that.

Okay I give up

@Frostwolf103

Please explain any strong reads u have and write out a “theory of the crime” or whatever u think scum have been up to this game.

Okay ty i will look for that post. If u update i will read ur thoughts i am curious

Zzz

D4 Voutecount

jason.mrrown (3): diafiasco, Leafia, tutuu
tutuu (2): Chomps, jason.mrrown
Kiiruma (1): soweli
ElizaThePsycho (1): Frostwolf103

Not Voting (4): ElizaThePsycho, Eve, Kiiruma, AngryFrog

Reminder that day ends in less than 24 hours.

jason.mrrown (2): diafiasco?, Leafia?
Leafia (2): AngryFrog, Frostwolf103
Kiiruma (1): soweli

Not Voting (6): ElizaThePsycho, Eve, Kiiruma, jason.mrrown, tutuu, Chomps

Let’s start with chomps, who’s previously Beancat and spewed this slot town by Hippo for claiming mason, this is one of the weak clears.

Tutuu I chose to believe being town because of Snow’s supposedly the one roleblocking Tutuu instead of Kiiruma

Jason is one of the early townreads, D1 interactions with Melatonin specifically I don’t see them W/W and even T/W doing that, it’s also because of him saying about Willow threadspewing as town and causes wagons to change

Kiiruma is able to gain my trust by vibing on 36501’s wagon at EoD2

Eve is cleared by Carbonated, enough said.

Diafiasco and Leafia, while these are lenient slots about right now, but they have been positively playing the game, if not agreeing with their takes.

Soweli is not underrated, but has been under the radar by pretense if you get my meaning. Soweli plays just as decent like Snow and has not attracted any unusual pings to me, up until now.

Willow I have D1 reads about that and is in contrast against Leafia like I mentioned, even though it’s Leafia who voted Willow, details are on #1403, as usual.

Kiiruma’s first post of d2 was 2238, and he didn’t claim his action failed. Your first post was 2295, almost an hour later.

If snow did visit kiiruma (not that bad of an assumption since kiiruma claimed pr), and he didn’t claim his action failed, then you’d be able to freely claim your action failing without being “cc’d” by someone else (kiiruma) claiming their action fsiled

Granted i’m kinda tunneled and if it’s tutuu i don’t want him to get away by using mech to clear himself, but i admit my perspective is biased bc of that. Could someone check my logic to see if it actually makes sense?

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EoD3*

if kiiruma is PR, he could have chosen to not immediately claim he was RBed, he isn’t obligated to

like if im mafia with snow, and our plan was for snow to RB V!kiiruma, and me to “steal” the claim of being RBed, and for me to wait for V!kiiruma’s first post to fish if he is VT or PR, id be betting my life on whether or not V!kiiruma would truthfully admit to being RBed, if he happened to be PR, or keep it hidden for now. i mean i guess it’s less far-fetched than before, i didnt know that kiiruma posted before me. it still seems kinda far-fetched to me, a really crazy and unnecessary risk for me to take, under no pressure and for no reason, but i am biased. maybe a third party could take a look at these thoughts, yeah

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i mean we could just have you holstering the rb

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thats also a possibility but holstering an infinite shot roleblocker on n1 just so i could claim being RBed seems a bit wild to me. again, biased and all. mafia doesnt know what roles there are on n1, there could be night vig, cop, doctor, etc.

anyway, ill drop this for now and ill keep solving others

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ftr i think the you-gambling possibility is weak, but especially in a low-power mafia team and/or one that suspects their n1 target of being a PR it’s not unreasonable for them to hold on the jailkeep in order to get you the credit. but i support pursueing other ventures rn yea

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Since the mafia has Jailkeeper, thats their roleblocker while pretending to protect. Too bad the full potentially is not realised (thankfully!)

That way, there’s no need for strongman either.

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Interesting point you’ve got here. Plus in all honesty I’d not put it past Tutuu to be a mafia JOAT who’s organised a bus on Snow - In order to cover for being a ‘2 shot neighbouriser’ but only having 1 shot due to JOAT stuff.

But we at least know Tutuu is saying the truth about having a neighbouriser ability (at least, probably) and I don’t think Tutuu reads as wolf who was being opportunistic. This is just something to consider if Tutuu survives a long time towards end game.

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okay ive decided ill be signing my posts with this from now on as angryfrog does not seem too fond of the Implicit Signage :mindful:

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Proly best it goes on a newline for clarity sake and size

:mindful:

We don’t know that gor 100% certainty though. Carbon could’ve easily been vigged by a mafia dayvig for all we know.

It would be more comforting if I actually cared about survival right now.

Wrong. You’re so wrong it isn’t even funny. It’s because you know how I am as both alignmdnts and yet you’re still doing this that I find it wolfy.

Except this isn’t how Tutuu acts as a wolf.

Jason is just flat out ignoring so many things to push Tutuu here.

He will flip town. I can almost promise you that.

Stop giving into deepwolf paranoia town! This is exactly what the two remainkng wolves want!

Then get your vote off of me.

It’s the counterclockwise arrow to the right of the hammer.

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:mindful:
To be clear i am NOT lilith

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:mindful:

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