Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 4 [11/17]

[melatonin]

Hey youve said this line to me before…

~g

[melatonin]

Basically the quality of my posts will go up and i will have time to iso

Dont yall…want to see…what…the 2025 best…all…around…player…does…when…they…have …time…to…play…the
.
…game

~g

[melatonin]

in theory I am also more free given weekend soon but so true…

meow

[Frostwolf103]

I am not buying 36501 visited me first night, Snow lied about his action regarding the jailkeeping Kiiruma instead of Tutuu. It is clear Tutuu is roleblocked, Kiiruma is the one tracked to nowhere!

36501 has to visit Kiiruma at one point, but no! Tutuu is more important because 36501 tries to defend by not seeing Tutuu claim.

!@#£%, 36501 is suspicious of Tutuu and that implicates and entire different scenario. So why did 36501 not visit Tutuu OR Kiiruma? Because their reads are bogus. It’s harsh truth.

[melatonin]

Do you think may the tracker is actually may the rolecop?

~g

[Frostwolf103]

I think the Rolecop and Tracker are equally important, you dont need a ninja or strongman.

[melatonin]

If may is mafia, why do you think they claimrd tracker?

As meow pointed out, it would look weirder if mafia didn’t kill them soon now

~g

[jason.mrrown]

gummy d2 iso

all posts with some comments, no need to read

@melatonin

bro i thought hippo was actually maso before i realized they claimed mason partners with beancat

@melatonin

i wasn’t aware of how little beancat has been on until then

and when i moved off it was like 6-6

idk like clearly i didn’t know what the fuck was going o bc meow wasn’t the one that was on

it was gummy that was on…

@melatonin

frost’s posts have been towny imo

they’re posting the same vote analysis that’s only understandable to themselves

this is a frost read i’ve seen gummy make before, nai i think

@melatonin

ca u explain this is intriguing

(to frost saying 36501 is partnered with hippo)

@melatonin

catbae was my top town at least

consistient w d1

@melatonin

also frog town imo

@melatonin

hilarious he thinks he’s thread spewed town

too bold imo to do so as mafia and frog does not seem like a bold mafia player

@melatonin

bold as in risky??

he just seems awkward and stilted to me

@melatonin

okay i was not aware of how much experience he had

i think i thought the awkwardness was a byproduct of not being super familiar with mafia // forums mafia

@AngryFrog

Defense of me from gummy felt like character assassination. It was like “probably not bold”, “awkward”, “stilted” , “noob”

Like if this is ur defense, maybe you should start attacking me

probably not w/w with low confidence

@melatonin

is it BAD i think 22 had tmi @36501

@melatonin

they seemed very confident hippo was going to flip mafia

like too confident

tutuu suspicion starts here

@melatonin

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Probably about to get snowed by numbers gummy and tutuu or something

is it bad that i think this list contains at least one mafia

@melatonin

also hippo said “who is meow is it meowl”

@melatonin

snow’s iso reads to me like town

@melatonin

because i played odyssey w them and their being overwhelmed seems correct

also their posts are nice yay

lmao

@melatonin

i thought kii was trying to soft pr to get killed lol

@melatonin

idk i think meow thinks 22 is mafia and im like ambivalent bc 22 was confident in meow being mafia in grande idea

@melatonin

I dislike eve

Were very hedgy in an INORGANIC way yday

~g

If we were info flipping i think carbon flip wpild give us lots of juicy info but w/e

@melatonin

Idk i think eve is good kill

Look into carbon bc if carbon mafia pr a lot of people including me look very bad

@melatonin

You will v rarely see me town like idk high posting peolle who ik play mafia well

I think i focus on the more niche people…

All that to say i would never dare say 36501 is clear

@melatonin

Also i think catbae just died

Does bodyguard go through strongman

@melatonin

Yeah probably

Their tone is like very motivated

I am just paranoid

@melatonin

Also i think catbae died bc mafia shot catbae

Idt mafia would risk protection on 36501 amd catbae was imo the towniest player after day (ik people had 36501 or leafia higher but imo…)

@melatonin

No bc catbae went theough the effort of seeing huppo voted beancat and pointing it out

That was towny

@melatonin

frost is so townnn

@melatonin

why would a maf dayvig ever shoot carbon

@melatonin

angryfrog if ur mafia i’ll be sad bc i keep thinking ur town

@melatonin

he keeps saying “is it bad i think”

which is what i say

@melatonin

im fine w a 22 vote i dislike their posting

they are TOO confident

@melatonin

oh gummy kinda disagrees w/ me about kiiruma so I might be wrong

(meow dislikes kiiruma’s posting)

@melatonin

gummy lthought their [snow’s] posting was fine

@melatonin

I dont have time except for last 10ish minutes of eod so i’ll realtime whenever

snow r u a jailkeeper

@melatonin

@snow why did you choose kii? instead of 36501 or catbae?

@melatonin

also im ngl this looks kinda bad for snow but w/e

@melatonin

well kii has been softing a PR role pretty blatantly lol

@melatonin

whatever i think the posts you made defending yourself is towny enough

something about the you don’t understand my argument screams town…

~g

don’t vote snow probably

@melatonin

why is willow policy exe

idk what she has done

@melatonin

has kii claimed ascetic?

i think snow is town or at the very least being honest about her role

@melatonin

i think snow is just jailor lol

@melatonin

why are we wagoning willow btw

@melatonin

wait so you just protected a lowposter?

@melatonin

he’s softing for whatever reason idk

@melatonin

idk this seems towny to me:( the claim was so yknow

@melatonin

jason is almost certainly town but like that doesn’t mean his reads are right

~g

that being said i don’t get the willow vote

@melatonin

no we aren’t killing snow today

@melatonin

i think snow is so town

im willing to overthrow 22 over snow

@melatonin

can you explain why you think willow is mafia because i really think she’s town

@melatonin

see this is exactly ther eason i think snow is town

also bc snow is posting very towny

what if we kill soweli

@melatonin

VOTE: soweli

time to SHAKE THINGS UP

@melatonin

VOTE: 36501

@melatonin

i don’t think your wagons are good

i think snow and willow are town

so im voting where i think wolves are

@melatonin

willow voting me for trying to find wolves in a slightly unconventional way is making me hmm

@melatonin

im reaction testing

it’s 30 minutes before eod not a minute before

@melatonin

dude get off your high horse

i can reaction test

i think snow and willow are both town and im trying to think of a good candidate

@melatonin

do you think inconsistency makes someone wolf? i think it makes them more likely to be town

@melatonin

yeah i can’t really tell what snow is saying here

like they thought beancat was wolf at the start of day but they als o thought beancat wasn’t wolf during the night?

@melatonin

also hot take i think town people sometimes need to play unconventionally

otherwise this just turns into the hugest echo chamber where everyone has the same poe and everyone isos in the same way

@melatonin

idk i don’t think snow as wolf claims the jail on kii as they did

@melatonin

frost i like you bc you shake things up

anyways why is 36501 part of the towncore so to speak

@melatonin

@snow can you walk me through how you feel about this situation right now

how did you feel at eod1, how are you feeling with the pressure, etc

@melatonin

what if we cfd angryfrog because angryfrog has been giving me bad vibes for the last 20 minutes

@melatonin

TOWN

it’s town

please don’t vote snow

@melatonin

i see things people don’t

they call me the lowposter whisperer

@melatonin

i think one of tutuu/36501 is mafia

but idt they’re getting voted out today

im getting suspicious of you but you’ve pinged me a lot less than you did in the last 2 games so i’ll ignore it

…im not sure i like angryfrog’s posting anymore

my top town is frost // jason // eve i think

i think snow is town // i think willow is town

@melatonin

it shouldn’t make a difference if ur wrong baout snow or if ur wrong about 22 lol

point is to solve…

like yes opportunity cost but whatever

@melatonin

VOTE: tutuu

@melatonin

idk if im cooking with gas but in grande idea they were very town and very overtly town and they are not giving near the same vibes

@melatonin

idk i always get worried im throwing and snow was mafia but whatever i find them towny whatever

@melatonin

look snow’s claim is obviously not consistent but from my experience all of that comes from town

~g

also they had nor eason to claim their role

@melatonin

bro you got mad when i cfded may

@melatonin

don’t flip snow bc i know snow is town trust

i feel it in my bones

@melatonin

bruh 22 is evil come on

@melatonin

huardnffewr someone vote 22 ojwrdiojtrv

Takeaways:

• “frost town bc their posts aren’t making sense” is a read i’ve seen gummy make before, probably nai
• weren’t aware of frog’s player history, calling them not likely to be a bold player, later townreads them. probably not w/w but i’m not confident (also the interaction d3 with leafia supposedly being nk’d is more interesting anyways)
• tutuu paranoia starts around 2301. gummy explains in 2579 that she is very hesitant to clear high posting players
• mistakenly believes snow is snowe from odyssey when they first post, defends them when they claim, saying the inconsistency is towny from a newer player (reasoning is nai, gummy would make this argument as both alignments but shielding snow her in retrospect is not a good look)
• i think my melatonin/willow tinfoil doesn’t make any sense bc meow was content voting them for most of the day up until i said they were threadspewed town, then gummy tried to shield willow

Tldr
Gummy’s d2 is… not great, in that most of her content is either nai or wolfsiding. It feels like she’s flailing a lot throughout the day and into eod, which could come from t!gummy believing in her townreads and trying to find a good alternative wagon, or w!gummy trying to defend her teammate(s) and trying to find a good alternative wagon that will stick.

I think the only thing she has going for her is melatonin’s stance on willow, as meow was ok with willow being voter but gummy tried to save willow near eod when she could’ve pushed willow to save snow.

[Eve]

who up tidying they room

[Eve]

mays not in this game

[Kiiruma]

Frost (and as a result gummy) has been talking about 36501 as May.

[Eve]

i know im just a hater

[Kiiruma]

In all honesty though I buy the 36501 choosing me as a Wolf Tracker / Rolecop world instead of choosing Frost. As I feel like some of the votes on me are sketching me out.

[melatonin]

how did 36501 know you didn’t visit n1 then?

meow

[soweli]

Weh.

Looked back through kii’s recent posting & I thought it was marginally towny in particular the willow read but like.

I did this mostly because melatonin has dropped in my list

[melatonin]

I’m half tunneling on kiiruma town and 36501 mafia and hating myself and trying to see how much is just paranoia

kiiruma if your flip is town, that just sets me as the next exe and vice versa for you – I don’t think it will “clear anything up” until 2 miskills in either way

meow

[soweli]

@melatonin

I will cry (mentally) if I’m doing all this for you guys to not deathtunnel post my death & you guys do it anyway. please wait at least a phase.

36501 voice: hi gummy

That’s it.
Hm.

[melatonin]

no that was from meow. I’m also susceptible to heartwarming town finding town narratives if you don’t like reading into emotion as ai too much

meow

[melatonin]

are you giving up on me bc reading me is hard with all the hedges (or bc I have more posts) (or bc you don’t think it’ll be as helpful as gummy?)

meow

[jason.mrrown]

All of the above i think

I also think reading gummy in isolation was more helpful since she was responsible for the votes