Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 4 [11/17]

[Frostwolf103]

@tutuu

i struggle to see 0 wolves (other than snow) voting me eod2. it would mean they would literally not care about what’s happening

@Frostwolf103

I argue that Jason see that wolves dont have to interfere with the current Willow voters

That.

[Frostwolf103]

@tutuu

him pushing may so confidently and so much only for him to NK her the next night seems kinda wild.

I am trying to bluff the mafia not into killing 36501 so 36501 can continue, having a 2-shot tracker might have done some backfire to my part, it’s possible to have lied about Night 1 and then able to use in Night 3. Well, guess it’s exactly as you say, they didn’t believe the bluff and doesnt care.

[jason.mrrown]

@catbae

fwiw if hippo is mafia leafia is town because i don’t think she could hide TMI this well (that sounds kind of mean but I don’t mean it that way)

@Leafia

Considering that Tutuu is the second option and I strongly townresd Tutuu, I’m going to listen to Tutuu here. VOTE: Hippo

Not my preferred vote but a lot better than Tutuu.

@Leafia

The fact that Hippo isn’t even claiming who his mason partner is nor is anyone claiming to be his mason partner is outing I think.

addition of “i think” at the end implies leafia isn’t completely sure that hippo is a wolf → lack of tmi

@Leafia

Yes but you’rd more likely to be a wolf than a man. I mean, it’s still possible for you to be a villager but you aren’t really giving us a choice here. Neither is the threadstate.

if leafia is a wolf here she hid her tmi really well, and instead of going for posts like “hippo is outed wolf vote him,” she’s going with “it’s mech optimal to vote hippo” which feels somewhat uninformed

[jason.mrrown]

@diafiasco

I do this exact system of charting as wolf too

lmao what happened when i posted the chart you said

@diafiasco

jason adopting the dia vibe spreadsheet technique…pocket accepted

which i believe you actually do more as town

[Kiiruma]

I will say, Leafia struggles to hide TMI sometimes. But Leafia is capable of hiding it and I don’t think it puts Leafia solidly out of wolf range.

[jason.mrrown]

@diafiasco

t!Jason would be solvier or a stronger Kiiruma pusher to get someone he believes to be firmly town and extremely active out of a jam

I was only about 70% sure it was t/t, even tho i made the whole towncase about melatonin i still wasn’t completely confident they were town, and i didn’t want to cfd in case i was wrong on one of kiiruma or melatonin

[Leafia]

Either you’re joking or you’re just a wolf at this point. I don’t make stuff up and not everyone can remember the reasons for every read they have. Mine is based mostly on gut and how the two of you have been posting.

@AngryFrog

This is a game of communication. Use your words to communicate to me your read on Jason.

Doing ghis is definitely not my strong suit Frog.

@Frostwolf103

@Frostwolf103

And you’re certain Snow’s pure?

@Leafia

I answered this already.

@Frostwolf103

I am more interested to hear why Leafia isn’t giving a more detailed answer what she reads about Soweli, you and Tutuu.

You know perfectly well how I am Ftostwolf.

@diafiasco

If people want to flip Tutuu just to cover their bases literally today I think that’s a waste of time but I will submit to the knowledge of the clllective

Flipping Tutuu today is dumb. He’s just obvious town at this point. Please stop with the Tutuu deepwolf paranoia.

@AngryFrog

Why are you still alive?

Probably due to the wolves knowing they can easily get him misexed at this point.

@soweli

Right now I think the game is winnable {diafiasco, Leafia, me, willow, Frostwolf, eve, jason} all read as pretty towny,

I’d take Jason off thst list.

@jason.mrrown

I’m just a little paranoid that she could be trying to subvert meta deliberately by claiming vt and lowposting the first few days

I literally never lowpost as a wolf. I’m not even capable of doing so. Believe me,I’ve tried.

@jason.mrrown

Oh btw soweli i gave you reasons why leafia might be individually scummy. The reasons i think tutuu and leafia might be paired are:

• tutuu and leafia have been each other’s top townreads for basically the entire game, with no paranoia whether the other might be a wolf
• both of them voted hippo at a similar time, which is when hippo’s wagon was close in size to tutuu’s
• they both pushed for eve at sod2 without thinking about potential bussing worlds. Tutuu only reevaluated when carbon flipped, and leafia didn’t reevaluate until d3

I’m honestly finding Jason’s posts to be hilareous. It’s because it’s ultra obvious that Hippo wanted to survive. He wasn’t bussed. If any wolves were on him, it wss one or maybe two at max.

It’s the people thst are acting like bussing was likely that are suspicious.

@Frostwolf103

Leafia has no business claiming he’s the one being attacked

She. Not he.

@Frostwolf103

Leafia is not compatible with Jason, Frog, Eve as these are her scumreads and mech-wise cannot be wolf because of Carbonated’s shot.

Feels wolfy beyond belief. Frost, not every wolf puts all their teammates in their townreads.

Almost 100% certain the two remaining wolves are within Jason/Ftog/Frostwolf at this point.

@tutuu

i like kiiruma the most next. him purposefully not self-pressing against a villager and risking a 50/50 rand, or even a guaranteed execution, is absolutely batshit insane. crazy play if wolf, it would really catch me off-guard. he has started solving more now which is good. ill look into his stuff

Kiiruma has done this as wolf before. Nothing insane about it.

@Frostwolf103

yeah no thats not possible, Carbonated shot eve.

We think that’s what happened you mean. We don’t know for sure.

[jason.mrrown]

@tutuu

i wanna respect jason’s read and effort that he wouldn’t towncore a wolf

have you considered that i may be a noob and might just be wrong here

[tutuu]

i solve using everyone’s reads and combining them like a mesh. im hoping you aren’t a V who was wrong on her coz then that would trip up my process yeah

[Frostwolf103]

@Leafia

Either you’re joking or you’re just a wolf at this point

What I am doing is to make you engage.

[jason.mrrown]

anyways tutuu i remember you saying on d3 you would read through the isos of melatonin and i. How has that been

[tutuu]

melatonin (1009)

[tutuu]

i will … get to it …

[tutuu]

a little bit more concise would have been better

[jason.mrrown]

it’s been 3 days… better get to it chop chop

[tutuu]

BWAAAAAAAH

[jason.mrrown]

well at least read through mine

[tutuu]

bet

[Frostwolf103]

@Leafia

Feels wolfy beyond belief. Frost, not every wolf puts all their teammates in their townreads.

Almost 100% certain the two remaining wolves are within Jason/Ftog/Frostwolf at this point.

Then you’re clearly not reading it right, I am talking about pairs, for obvious reasons you made yourself clear earlier.

[Frostwolf103]

@Leafia

We think that’s what happened you mean. We don’t know for sure.

Correct, but why speculate over anything else? Otherwise Eve is on the table. Carbonated would at least softclaim that’s the target, that’s what happened.