Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 5 [9/17]

I don’t follow, sorry? The previous point was me arguing why snow, if they were my teammate, wouldn’t RB a fellow wolf, or holster a RB. RBing a Villager N1 is +EV in closed setup IMO. Like, strongly. And I got RBed N1. And if V!Kiiruma was RBed I couldn’t have known Kiiruma was VT in order to steal his claim of being RBed

my point is that we don’t know for sure that you got RB’d. we assumed that because it made snow’s claim make more sense. tutuu → no one and tutuu → catbae could both be plausibly passed off as an action fail, particularly if snow really did visit kiiruma

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I would be also surprised if Catbae actually went to Kiiruma instead of 36501 or even Soweli. Thus lining up that Snow did try to kill Kiiruma and actually roleblocked Tutuu.

I asked the host, so I am waiting for answer.

well i don’t think kiiruma was the kill target

On the contrast I dont believe it’s 36501 either, it’s too random.

But if Snow visits Villager PR Kiiruma, Kiiruma receives the Action Fail message. If I try to ‘steal’ that, do I not enter a senseless pseudo-CC with V!Kiiruma? Wolves don’t know if V!Kiirima is VT or PR. Wolves could have the capacity to learn if Kiiruma is VT or PR, but only if they use an investigate action on him. In order for me to be a wolf, it would have to be something utterly insane like wolves using both investigative AND jailkeeping action on Kiirima on the same night

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catbae literally breadcrumbed it

I saw, it could have been Soweli too.

I dunno, maybe the intent was to suggest there were multiple RB type roles in the game. idk i’m not in wolf chat

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At least it’s proven not to be the case.

our assumption that snow was lying about blocking kiiruma and was actually blocking tutuu arose because it was the only thing that added up with what was claimed

Well i’m not either :P. I’m trying to imagine worlds where I’m wolf and I’m trying to explain why it doesn’t make sense

But anyway. I should focus on others, it will be more productive

it could’ve been the other way around and we just gettiered to a correct answer bc kiiruma was not a very town jail keeper target to make

Nice lol

I believe that tutuu might be the scum slot who has been pulling the ropes behind the curtain. That said I’m not going to vote them today because I already suspected and voted tutuu before it was cool LOL

Also @diafiasco now that soweli is dead the burden of tinfoiling me rests squarely on your shoulders. I hope that you will let neither me nor soweli down :crazy_face:

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nope i’m putting my faith in frog

if you were wolf you wouldn’t be ragebaiting this hard

you don’t seem interested in normal play though so i will leave you out of my townstack (currently me/eve/kiiruma/chomps)

VOTE: kiiruma

GTH I’m thinking that this might be tutuu’s partner

There is a lot to pond(er) though and as soon as kiiruma posts a bad joke I’m probably going to go back to suspecting will-o’-the-wisp

Now what could be VERY interesting is if both will-o’-the-wisp and kiiruma post an excessive number of bad jokes then I get the impetus to be creative and go after someone else

Inconsequential.