Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Night 1 [16/17]

This slot is town…it’s not hard

We need to build a wagon on a slot that’s a more useful flip that actually helps us solve the game. this threadstate is not good for town because this day phase is getting wasted. Everyone shrugging and agreeing on the same two slots being “good votes” for extremely dubious reasons + static wagons + passive play + low contention over status quo means that you goobers settled on a bad PoE and scum are ready to watch you waste your time getting info from flips you could have already seen coming.

OoOoOhHhH a SlOt Is TrYiNg To ShOw InItIaTiVe AnD sOlVe ThE gAmE iT mUsT bE sCuM tRyInG tO iNdUcE cHaOs In OuR aMaZiNg SoLvEs

If we all agree on something then it must be right. I mean like, we’re ALL on the same side, right? There are no secret teams in here with ulterior motives? I think what must be happening is that the 1 person who wants to go against everyone else and challenge the status quo is probably the most likely to be lying. Yeah, yeah that makes sense. It’s 1 person challenging the status quo who is the problem and we all agree the same two slots are scummy because we all have the same objective and Everything Makes Sense If You Don’t Think About It At All. Very nice. Good detective work. Bravo.

VOTE: Hippo
(previous post still stands i am just immensely bored; consider this me picking my vote back up after i lent it to the beancat cause)

Jason is town I think

The gummy cat hydra is obvious town

Dia is obvious town

Leafia is obvious town

Soweli is not obvious town and that bothers me:

VOTE: soweli

Tutuu seemed townie when I first started interacting with them but they should have a better ability to read the thread than this.

@catbae if you don’t help straighten out the PoE before we get to EoD Ima start looking at you because you have the scum range to dupe and scum be dupe’n right now. Or doing so little they arent even being noticed.

Okay very awkward crosspost

VOTE: Hippo

I don’t trust you yet but I’m willing to give anyone a chance who actually has a shot at being onto scum right now

oh right this game was a thing

sorry i was too busy being gay

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gimme like 30 mins to read
anyone wanna point me in a particular direction

That either means

Willow/Leafia
Eve/36501
Tutuu/Catbae
Diafiasco/Tutuu

Stated in #713, maybe it is me and think that bussing is a silly thing to do in Day 1, interestingly I have been told why not T/W and I get it’s directed about your hydra slot and Jason, still…how do I explain T/W on the rest.

That is in fact, an Angry Frog.

why has tutuu not come in to point out the obvious wolves (I have been thinking and despite my (slightly alleviated) foul mood the solve might be more important)

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dia thoughts

ok let’s first start with the reasons i stated dia was wolfy

Summary

i don’t think the basis of the read itself is bad, since I think dia is the type of player where randing town is probably more freeing for them. Since they know they’re town, they get to do more bc of the towny entitlement and play more loosely. If they do rand wolf, they don’t mind it, but I think they would be more focused on the game and their wincon.

I theorized this difference might show up in their openers, since i remember their openers from their two games on fol being very different. However, I did go through some of dia’s games on qbcord and they claim their role d1 in every single one as both alignments, so I think i’m just wrong about dia claiming in their opener as being alignment indicative. I think the difference is that madoka magica had anticlaim, so dia couldn’t claim freely, while in april showers, dia had a role that was immune to anticlaim, so they felt free to claim that.

some posts that pinged me

Summary

this pinged me a little, because it felt very appease-y. Like dia was going “yeah you’re right” when I was pushing them, which felt like w/t to me

i didn’t really like this post bc it was basically brushing off all the solving i had been doing

after i revealed to melatonin i was trying to bait them into tunneling me

to me these just feel like really strange posts to make. like I’d expect dia to understand what I was doing, like 36501 and catbae did, but instead these posts just feel like dia is shading me

I think the biggest point against dia for me is their progression on melatonin

so dia’s two wolfreads here are melatonin and me. However, this is the first time they mention wolfreading melatonin. When asked about it later, they say

implying that they thought melatonin and I were w/w and voting each other to distance. However, if you read the earlier post, dia’s thought process there is “If both melatonin and jason are wolves, they probably wouldn’t be voting each other,” implying they didn’t think it was w/w at all.

ok i have been pondering this for a long time and I think my conclusion is that the posting is bad but that doesn’t necessarily make dia a wolf.

I actually quite liked dia’s responses to me calling out his lack of progression, they didn’t freeze up and it felt like towny indignation for being pushed for incorrect reasons

originally i also read this as appeasement but I think it makes way more sense if dia was being snarky here

i also liked this post

this just seems like it comes from t!dia to me, it fits my image of being town being more “freeing” for them, idk if i can explain it any better bc it’s more of a gutread than anything

tldr dia could be town with bad posting, i’m willing to move off for now and give them space
UNVOTE

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thoughts on frog then i’m going to go to sleep (and prob get yelled at by meow later for staying up to write the dia wall)

i liked his willingness to come in and shake things up, like how he picked out a fight with Kiiruma to try to get a reaction out of him. I don’t think I cared as much for his pOsTiNg, felt pretty unnecessary, but he has a point about the threadstate being a little stagnant. I’m curious how he came to the reads he had in #1246 but I’m sure he’ll explain it at some point.

Jason, how could you meow

oh no it’s over for me

i was impersonating

~g

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who is wolf gth? you don’t have to give reasons rn it’s late

im getting bullied in skool
(joke)
~g

brother u think ive been reading

ive been trying to finish my work

~g

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fair enough

gn