Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 4 [11/17]

[diafiasco]

thanks for the content can u claim now

[melatonin]

@tutuu

I feel suspicious that he’s a wolf coming up with i explicable arguments to make correct reads. I’m also suspicious that he’s bussing Hippo

unrelatedly, do you have thoughts on this? I need to reread frost again, but I was starting to get scared of this

@tutuu

Im voting between Hippo, Eve, Beancat, Snow

2 mafia, 1 likely town, 1 ??. think wolf tutuu can push harder against town leads if his partners are the lowposters

@soweli

tutuu give me a name to vote that isn’t eve/hippo

@tutuu

Snow

think this reflects very good? could be preparing antispew in advance but vacuum

@soweli

i think snow is towny enough & we’re not d1ing a newbie. sorry.

@tutuu

We are D1ing hippo

== end of day 1

@tutuu

this might be TMI. snow is representing being an unconfident villager, and they are apologizing and saying sorry all the time. that could be personality, they could be playing it up due to being wolf and trying to placate / pocket people. but more importantly, being an unconfident villager contradicts the confidence in this post. its not a very confident post, but its not a very unconfident post either

yes i realize the hypocrisy because ppl are accusing me of being overly confident and TMI but it doesnt count coz im town lol. and idk if snow is town

ended up correct? I don’t know I mean his other main susses at sod2 with snow were eve/willow (much stronger wolfreads than snow) and carbonated, and like at least 2 of these are probably town so. p lus kiiruma for mech reasons

@tutuu

Angyfrog
Frostwolf
Carbonated
Beancat
Kiiruma

Snow
Willow
Eve

bottom of tutuu readslist – well snow is there! I guess 36501 pointed out tutuu pushed willow/eve much more than snow though. so actually I am less confident but I think tutuu throwing out another wolf as alternative to hippo wagon is reasonably good?

so just pointing this out for you guys I guess.

meow

[melatonin]

yeah whatever, we’re vanilla. nothing of note has happened to us & it’s ~fine if we die bc we’ll never get shot now

meow

[jason.mrrown]

thank you for the posts, i like them, especially the snow/tutuu soft unpairing one

meow/gummy can you point me to some moments in your iso you want me to look at?
(going w this bc its gonna take me a while to read through the whole thing and im looking for a shortcut)

[melatonin]

@jason.mrrown

meow/gummy can you point me to some moments in your iso you want me to look at?
(going w this bc its gonna take me a while to read through the whole thing and im looking for a shortcut)

I’m going ot literally die if I have to reread my own iso. um. do you have any accusations specifically I need to refute

I’m out of likes by the way

meow

[melatonin]

tell him if he can spend several hours scrolling through 22’s champ posts
he can read our entire iso

-gummy, through meow

[melatonin]

we have another day of life anyway, and it’s getting too late & I’d rather stay up tomorrow night rather than tonight & crash tomorrow

sorry I’m just feeling like really dizzy or something

going to go through frost??? or maybe just go all out on kiiruma and get proven wrong when he claims or something ugh before crashing

meow

[melatonin]

@jason.mrrown

melatonin
bad votes eod1 and eod2

@melatonin

also write a better wolfcase on me than that (coward). your d1 deathtunnels are better reasoned than just “bad votes”

but genuinely, this, jason. I thought you were pretty locktown. I still feel that’s likely. your reason for why we’re at the bottom of your readslist is like. incredibly uncharacteristic of what I expect though & it’s pinging me like crazy for katseye “bad eod” vote on me. give me a peek into your mind.

meow

[jason.mrrown]

you don’t need to reread, i just wanted to know if there were any moments in the game where you posted something and went “wow i’m so obvtown for posting this”

[melatonin]

I think all of gummy’s posts and “gotcha” moments or whatever are very towny. caveat is that gummy’s posts are always quite towny to me

well, gummy says we’ve been “obvtown” this entire game; I kinda disagree bc many people have simply been townier, but sure

I think my reads are very townmeta hedgey fencesit-y. unfortunately for everyone? that’s also in my wolf meta. probably best thing is how bad my positioning around hippo/snow was both days, I didn’t consider either as wagons I cared about, similar to katseye in a way (but not really bc in that game I was defending/townreading the mafia). so meh I don’t know. I think the tutuu paranoia posts are hard to make if I were actually wolf w/ tmi on town tutuu, unless tutuu is wolf & I’m hedging my bets again, but I think if I was wolf with tutuu I would not be that paranoid of him (much less try to cfd onto him as gummy) so shrug!!

meow

[Kiiruma]

I mean the thing is in this game the rolecop died at that exact moment. It’s not something which would be possible with living players would it? You can try and push this angle but you and me both know what does and doesn’t make sense there.

[jason.mrrown]

ok but like. you have the most wolf equity in the game and it’s hard to ignore that

i’m trying to think if there have been any moments that have been out of range for you guys and idts? tho that probably means i have to go back through your iso to look

[melatonin]

@melatonin

I think the tutuu paranoia posts are hard to make if I were actually wolf w/ tmi on town tutuu

I don’t remember what I posted in grande idea game when I was trying to stoke tutuu paranoia, so maybe this game is still similar I don’t know.

I think I probably sound similar to when I was speccing tutuu in beatings in the spec channel if you realllllly care since I was also uninformed in that, but I really have no clue

meow

[melatonin]

@jason.mrrown

ok but like. you have the most wolf equity in the game and it’s hard to ignore that

explain

meow

[melatonin]

any reason you’ve never voted anyone kiiruma? you can always vote me again

meow

[Kiiruma]

I’m VT.
I’ve been doing a good job of baiting though and have enjoyed my playing around acting important.

I was probably rolecopped by mafia as VT, so they chose to claim they jailkept me knowing I couldn’t confirm nor deny anything.

[melatonin]

oh that’s cool. maybe you’re not evil after all

meow

[jason.mrrown]

this is just another way of saying bad votes lol, idt you’ve had any interactions with snow or hippo really that i can point to as being pairing or unpairing

[Kiiruma]

This is also why I theatrically argued against Leafia’s claim D1. As I think it’s positive if VTs like myself are able to bait kills / bait actions from mafia which I think I probably ended up doing in contrast to Leafia who kinda just went ‘And… now this is everyone else’s problem’.

[melatonin]

there are like many other reasons to sus me than bad votes I think. you should find them. anyway what do you think wolf gummy was thinking swapping from carbon to hippo then in your wolf melatonin fanfiction?

meow