Grande Idea - Endgame - Mafia wins

[iamagummybear]

Jason allow me to pocket you

[carbonated]

no one

[carbonated]

but meow less than others

[jason.mrrown]

:(( you know my thoughts on this

[iamagummybear]

I am waiting for my bf to wakr tf up so i can play secret hitler

He has been sleepijg for 3 hours tf

[meow]

this is good I think

[meow]

you should also sleep zzzzz

[iamagummybear]

Looking for glasses is criminal

I need them to see

[Ash]

Finished.

Confirmed Not to Be In The Game

All The Lord Ones

#392 - Me, as Deputy, for some reason
#471 - Olli the Oligicidist
#473 - Royalty Jailor plus 3 shot strongman vigilante totally not from another game

Not Publicly Announced

#262 - The Minnocent, Gone Bad
#356 - 2-shot strongwiller, omni-miller, with a n0 green check
#367 - The Deadslinger
#371 - Mafia Bomber
#373 - Bomber
#395 - The Alt
#463 - The Obvious PR
#469 - Converting BOTC Roles to Standard Mafia is a Good Endeavor with No Possible Negative Consequences
#520 - Pot of Greed
#534 - L
#535 - Kira
#536 - Mello

#407 - Depularity (I didn’t get this passive)
#565 - The Spawnkiller (Mafia would’ve just used this N0)

Roles I Don't Think Are In The Game

#252 - Everyone’s favorite, the Snake Charmer! (for the very obvious reasons)
#267 - Master of Rings (Aura, kill yourself and become an extra host)
#270 - Mayer ( but more seriously, this throws out the potential for a doctor to stop/fail to stop a mafia kill, so…)
#289 - Hostile Host (I’ve been trying not to exclude killing roles that could be in the game but with “infinite uses” changed to “1x”, but an Neutral arsonist can’t just be made into 1x without losing a lot)
#295 - Jackal (too much for a 12 player game)
#305 - Green Flag (weird incentives happen from this that I imagine the GMs don’t want to see occur)
#309 - Red Flag (absolute chaos)
#310 - Literally just throw (same as Green Flag)
#323 - Shaman (like a nightskip but better; too strong for town in a game this size)
#335 - Weird Fuckery (very obvious reasons)

The Clowns

#337 - Clown Murder
#338 - Clown Murderer
#339 - Clown Murdered
#340 - Murder Clowns
#341 - We are clowns and we’re getting murdered
#342 - I am a clown and I’m getting murdered
#343 - Clown
#344 - Clown Mastermind
#346 - Texas man with Coulrophobia

#361 - Elesh Norn (god no)
#374-376 - Multi Table Vigilante/Arsonist (this is such an incredibly hard thing to balance around and too angleshooty to really be fun)
#382 - Litten’s Mom (how exactly can they confirm if I can do a cartwheel or not)
#391 - The average Town of Salem 2 player (I get the sense this would cause problems. The Deputy also causes problems but has more time to actually think, so it might exist under the presumption that town doesn’t skill-issue)
#410 - Deputy doing a little trolling (fake flips after Fortress of Lunacy might be a death sentence)
#418 - Baker → Famine, Horseman of the Apocalypse (too swingy)
#443 - [Because you feel out of your chair] (without announced XeLo, this role completely falls apart)
#470 - Camoflauged Wolfy (another round of “this cannot be added without encouraging players to break Global Rules”)
#481 - WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP (is this what Anime Mafia felt like to mafia?)
#506 - Ferris Wheel (the consequences of my actions)
#538 - Undiplomat (just a boring role)
#539 - Recruiter (I’m warming up to “ok, maybe a single recruit”. Three is too many.)
#540 - Zone_Q11 (Sanity must prevail. Please.)
#541 - Broaken Roules (We don’t have majority execution; we have plurality. I think. Will check after I post this.)
#562 - In Theory, The GM Could And Should Stop That From Happening, And This Was The Reason That The GM Must Approve Of The Puzzle Before It Is Submitted, And Honestly, It’s Kind Of Anti-Self Actualization To Not Do Fun Things With Puzzles, But This Might Be Colored Because Of QBCord’s Adoration Of Puzzles Versus This Site’s Focus On Winning, Which Is Honestly An Entire Can Of Worms That I Do Not Want To Open Because I Am Not Qualified To Open It And Really Don’t Want A Bunch Of People To View Me Being Slightly Disappointed In Their Approach To Mafia As Being An Attack On Them As A Person Because I Can Find Better Reasons To Hate People Than That. So I Guess We’re Now In An Arms Race For Puzzle Difficulty. (Requiring three roles in the game to exist is too much.)
#566 - Cop(e) (Weaponize the host. This is a rule break. You may be banned.)
#567 - The Canner (Nya.)

Some notes:

• Found Marluna’s role (#266).
• Arcey the Snow Emperor (#300) has some wacky things. Big one is that if you vote on a wagon they have started, your vote will count as double, and if that wagon is a successful execution, they will kill the last person on that wagon.
• I really don’t think any of the Clown Murder roles (#337-344, #346) are in the game. Regardless, please do not post a clown emoji.
• Copyright Infringement Lawsuit (#348) can kill you if you post a copypasta. Don’t do that.
• May this role sucks (#441) and I’m sorry, your response must be in the form of a GIM role (#509) are other options for anticlaim.
• Don’t go correcting people on grammar mistakes (looking at you, guy in the mirror). Thank Chair of Deception is dead, Throne of Lies is even more dead-er, and with it is it’s outdated system of naming classes that includes something as out-of-place as “Killer” instead of “Killing” (#495).
• Don’t post the nerd emoji thanks to So why would you use the conventions of Town of Salem instead? (#497)
• Let the dead thread die there’s no gim in the game suimission queue (#505) means you should not claim within 8 hours of another claim.
• I’m realizing now that conversion could theoretically occur if mafia starts with, like, 2 members or something, but that still feels rather busted to me.

[carbonated]

yes i will never trust you

[Ash]

In summary, do not do any of the following:

• Say the name of the role in #77.
• Claim your role (#79, #441, #509).
• Claim your role within 8 hours of another claim (#505).
• Soft investigative hard enough that someone can figure out that you are one (#92).
• Self-vote or Appeal to Emotion (#107).
• Post a clown emoji (#337-343, #346).
• Post a nerd emoji (#497).
• Post a copypasta (#348).
• Correct people on grammar mistakes (#495).

[Ash]

Can’t believe I had to read this instead of, like, Never Let Her Go.
I’m gonna go touch grass or something and try harder when I come back.

[pandora]

good morning

[pandora]

evening

[pandora]

whatever

[carbonated]

Author?

[jason.mrrown]

Take a guess

[jason.mrrown]

Hello pandora do you have any thoughts

[meow]

what if you read the buried giant

thanks for reading for me, I will eventually look through the roles you highlighted

[meow]

@Ash

#562 - In Theory, The GM Could And Should Stop That From Happening, And This Was The Reason That The GM Must Approve Of The Puzzle Before It Is Submitted, And Honestly, It’s Kind Of Anti-Self Actualization To Not Do Fun Things With Puzzles, But This Might Be Colored Because Of QBCord’s Adoration Of Puzzles Versus This Site’s Focus On Winning, Which Is Honestly An Entire Can Of Worms That I Do Not Want To Open Because I Am Not Qualified To Open It And Really Don’t Want A Bunch Of People To View Me Being Slightly Disappointed In Their Approach To Mafia As Being An Attack On Them As A Person Because I Can Find Better Reasons To Hate People Than That. So I Guess We’re Now In An Arms Race For Puzzle Difficulty. (Requiring three roles in the game to exist is too much.)

I’m devastated.