Grande Idea - Endgame - Mafia wins

what have you submitted so far

think we still let carbon do it if she wants to. more thoughts can’t hurt (can they?)

I have my pairings ???ily written up, I just have to paste them over and format

it’s really hard to find partners for carbon, I will say that

ya you can’t really ban people from doing it luhmao

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it’s just willow and you i tihnk

Uh i submitted you hazard carbon n1 and n2 i was so tilted after eod2 that i didn’t submit anything

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how does it feel to have hazard and me both be dead town now

Yeah yeah my scumreads have been awful this game

no it was a reaction test lol

my scum reads have been awful too

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I think lack of familiarity w FoLer meta + you being hard to read for me in general is probably why

what do you think about a meow willow team

there’s a mafia kp role that only lets you target mafia but you get to be investigated as town the rest of the game if you do so

and meow is rber…

disclaimer: entirely ignoring whether I townread the player or not, just trying to draw lines. there are too many towny players in this game

Willow / ?

Willow / Zoe - absolutely impossible to read. scratch that willow resurfaced to check out Zoe’s claim. not sure if that’s more unpairing than pairing since zoe used the wrong post numbers

Willow / Daeron - can see this, daeron townread willow although willow didn’t townread him back

Willow / Marluna - can see this, willow pushes marluna but not very hard, is interpreted as a joke, if marluna ever flips mafia willow looks good. maybe unlikely but I can see it

Willow / Gummy - like zero interactions with each other besides gummy deducing willow had shot me when willow started softing. gummy thought willow might be mafia who shot me, don’t think she does this if they’re partners

Willow / Carbon - carbon least likely partner. maybe world where willow makes up having vig but it seems bad carbon already on thin ice. also I don’t think setup wouldn’t have town kp. carbon mafia is town willow. otherwise town carbon and neutral willow. both town also possible. essentially I think >=1 of [carbon, willow] must be town

Willow / Jason - tinfoil jason shields me d2 to prevent me from flipping to keep willow’s resolution in stasis. but literally why claim shooting me in the first place, it’s too convoluted

Zoe / ?

Zoe / Daeron - can’t think of a single zoe daeron interaction besides the wish convo. seemed pretty unstaged?

Zoe / Marluna - second-most inactive wolfteam. don’t think they’ve interacted in thread at all?

Zoe / Gummy - gummy townread zoe, zoe sheeped gummy’s pandora vote, that’s about it. some wish interaction. oh I guess zoe probably stumped gummy, I don’t see any world where mafia does that to their teammate

Zoe / Carbon - zoe voted the counterwagon over carbon both days.

Zoe / Jason - not many interactions either? jason asked if zoe had mech thoughts several times I think. would think it would be an opening for zoe to use if they were paired unless it is distancing

Daeron / ?

Daeron / Marluna - barely any interactions, think daeron gave her a townread?

Daeron / Gummy - not sure if daeron susses gummy that many times. gummy jumps on flashwagon more easily and doesn’t vote daeron first when I’m voting him I think, too risky. gummy did defend daeron/they do townread each other

Daeron / Carbon - voted carbon late eod2 instead of hammering me or refraining from voting. voted ash d1. surely would have been aware of carbon using the dayvig on ash and jumped on a different wagon instead? daeron said something at some point that he felt set up for the misexe off ash’s flip, I think that’s more likely than partners

Daeron / Jason - I SWEAR. insane actors if so. flashwagon timing was insanely synchronized. but daeron did not need to push Jason so hard d1. also seemed convinced by tutuu abt jason mafia don’t think necessary as mafia partners to do this

Marluna / ?

Marluna / Gummy - only think 1 self confirming role is mafia, don’t know if any of them have really like talked to the other. if they’re both mafia, gummy neighborizer is fake (I know she already flipped) (okay maybe not fake bc I think ash was the only other person to say the trigger word d1 anyway)

Marluna / Carbon - marluna just casually voted carbon d1. she swapped off eod when pandora wagon formed, but it seems risky. caveat: marluna and carbon were tied with 2 votes each at the time. bad tinfoil it was to build up for “town” carbon to dayvig but honestly I think I would have voted carbon then and there if the dayvig had actually gone off before eod without thinking it over. and like almost no visible benefit

Marluna / Jason - have they had any interactions? I think jason sussed her d1 a bit actually. could be towny could be tmi

Gummy / ?

Gummy / Carbon - jason noted synergy/similar reads from them early d1, and gummy saved carbon eod with pandora counterwagon. also defended carbon d2. maybe they could come up w the silly town carbon oops shot plan but risk? gummy probably could come up with a better way to execute it. gummy voted me over carbon initially

Gummy / Jason - jason’s random gummy tunnels don’t happen, he just claims pocketed. well maybe gummy tells jason he should act paranoid

Carbon / Jason

Carbon / Jason - carbon asked pandora for justification for her jason vote
jason re-eval on carbon could be faked progression maybe. didn’t defend carbon sod2 though. was shielding me and willing to vote carbon eod2. vote seemed between me or carbon without other options, jason could have sheeped easily. probably could have convinced carbon to vote tutuu if paired.

partner likelihoods?:

willow: daeron = marluna > zoe > jason > gummy >> carbon
zoe: carbon > jason = marluna = daeron = willow = gummy
daeron: marluna = willow = zoe > jason > gummy > carbon
marluna: daeron = willow > jason >= carbon >> gummy
gummy: carbon = daeron > jason = marluna = willow >> zoe
carbon: zoe > marluna = gummy > daeron = jason >> willow
jason: marluna > zoe > willow > daeron = gummy > carbon

question mark

but there aren’t any alignment cops (unless tutuu counts)

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my top scum team rip

but u didnt know that at hat point

i cant believe i was included in the mafia tema pairings

all of us are losing it (including me)

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but why would it be in the setup if the intended synergy for mafia is to self-shoot+rb?

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yeah me neither

I think jason still has lingering trauma