the leafia entrance though
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I got this d1 and felt bad
oh. i thought day ended today. i am getting bamboozled by myown brain
ok well im here now
9 players alive
misexe = 8
night kill = 7
extra KP = 6
3v3
so misexe on meow means game ends if carbonated is maf with an extra vig shot and willow is pushing for a game losing exe
@tutuu I am entirely willing to sheep you as I have been wrong on Ash and am now unconfident in my ability to solve this game
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fwiw meow if you are town you should act like your execution ends the game because it most likely does if carbonated & willow are pulling off what they possibly are
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oh wait scrap the whole ācarbonated and willow are probably partnered if they are doing thisā thing
both of them claim a vig so like
itās almost certain if either are mafia and we misexe we lose tonight
so willow claiming vig on meow is like meh
I agree
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carbonated claiming to leave a loud shot to EoD without discussing it whatsoever would be completely outing
but apparently they didnāt know it was public and I sort of believe it
Yes
I really do hope we learned from Magic Bullet Outis and it isnāt d2 mylo
meow is l-2 btw
What does this mean
2 votes to being executed
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UNVOTE
fwiw I am gauging the setup power and it seems to be very low
at least on townās end from the flips
I really want to hear more from zoe, maybe daeron, maybe massclaim which would be them and jason
zoe - for what itās worth I donāt think zoe is that cleared from being hazardās top townread and that the role softing and asking if the neighborize went through holds more weight than that
daeron - felt a bit uncomfy about the ash/jason cases even while jason paranoia flares up once in a while. like I felt somewhat targeted by his point that jason could swap his read on me at any moment as like an attempt to make me sus jason more. interesting that jason has been super consistent in that read this entire game. daeron picking me over willow could just be bc heās more likely to think willow would townread him over me, I guess. whatever happens, I guess I canāt ever see daeron and jason being mafia together
willow - I donāt really think willowās actions make sense for mafia, so sheās either neutral or town (willow if youāre mafia, youāve successfully bewildered me). the strongest thing in her favor as town for me is her claimed shot on me, I donāt really get any particularly strong town vibes from her posts (as with marluna below)
- if people think the neutral-willow theory is actually plausible, I think a willow push today could be valid since voting out neutral > voting out town + probably it would help resolve my slot
- if sheās transparently town, then I take back my willow push because a misexe on town vig willow is much more likely to chain into a misexe on me the following day than the other way around
marluna - I saw your posts where you said her posts are really towny. I donāt really see it, but I donāt know marluna at all to be able to evaluate if she would be able to post like that as mafia. if I were mafia with that role, Iād probably play it the exact same way but maybe minus the d1 instaclaim (although I can kinda see its value since the roleās utility is only in conveying spec reads) (besides giving you somewhere to talk at night).
- honestly main uncomfiness is just that I canāt entirely make myself believe that you, ash, and marluna all have role abilities that can be narrowed down to town roles only. like in a vacuum, Iād probably suspect ashās role of being the mafia implant, but heās flipped, so. I admit, I think marlunaās role provides the least utility for mafia, so from a design-perspective, I donāt know if hosts would want to burn a mafia roleslot on an essentially vanilla role ā maybe in a 3 mafia world?
carbon - probably surviving until final whatever, mafiaās never going to shoot her. the dayvig is entirely something sheād do as town, but worth keeping in mind there is a maf role that does the same thing. Iām not really sure how we can be ever be positive on carbon town, itās just that every time she pulls a stunt like this, and I push her as the vote, Iāve been wrong and then we lost, so. maybe slightly soured by her just jumping on my wagon right now, but she does seem busy
remaining:
tutuu - your problem to deal with, I donāt want to think about the world where theyāre maf
gummy - I went over my issue with the self-confirming roles for marluna. I feel like if tutuu said kill meow, and you were mafia, youād just go with it instead of asking if youāre skill issued. also carbon is an easy misexe, I donāt see you defending her as mafia either. actually generally, I kinda just assume mafia lets town implode rather than defending town, so maybe w/ the pandora eod, but not with how things have played out so far. maybe you have me very firmly pocketed, but then you would have the entire game pocketed, and I feel somewhat better
jason - I donāt like the blind faith like Iāve said. that being said, heās had a lot of good questions that feel like he is trying to solve or understand other peopleās positions, and I cannot believe he is subjecting himself to backreading so many past games, so I think Iām just being paranoid with compliment meta
I just saw that daeron is posting, but Iām too lazy to edit sorry
theyāre nice posts though I will have to think about them
I donāt think willow has been pushing me at all besides the start unless thatās how she usually pushes. I am curious to hear her reads though @ElizaThePsycho