Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[ElizaThePsycho]

@Neon

What if I just did something like

VOTE: Lemonfairy

So anyways I’m in desperate need of getting back to the basics of my gameplay which means I’m in desperate need of not doing just about everything I’ve done for the last month straight.

can get behind this
(i completely forgot my earlier reasoning, need to check up on that, but they’ve kinda vanished after zone got jailed if i remember the timing correctly too)

[ElizaThePsycho]

@ElizaThePsycho

honestly i can kinda get behind this

• thinks the un cc’d PR is mafia
• the above thingy
• uhhh
• what else?
• okay its not OPTIMAL but its better than Wazza and Lissi
  VOTE: Lemon

here we are

[ElizaThePsycho]

@Lemonfairy

is this going to be another EOD where everyone ignores me and votes out an obvtown (according to me)?

this post is the “thing above”

[ElizaThePsycho]

is it in lemon’s character to freeze?

[ElizaThePsycho]

i still barely understand the gorta case, will need to check up on that

[ElizaThePsycho]

also i don’t see what ur saying

[ElizaThePsycho]

that is absolutely something a partner can say to a partner
it is

• unsubstantiated
• provides absolutely no content
• can be passed off as just a normal thing, which it is if lemon is town

and most of all
WOLVES DON’T CALCUALTE THEIR EVERY POST!!!
i mean, some do
but most often there will be some posts that they just threw out without calculating or thinking about how it will help them or whatever

[ElizaThePsycho]

people always assume that wolves are cold, calculating, emotionless, etc.
when this is definitely not the case and I hate it

[ElizaThePsycho]

100% of the time, I should say

[Zorvo]

Well it appears I’m gonna have to find more posts by Lemon.

[Zorvo]

@Lemonfairy

I weirdly agree with Zorvo’s POE, including having Zorvo himself in the POE too

Also I really like this Mind Melt.

@Lemonfairy

am weirdly mindmelding here with Zorvo

think the team is just Frost/Chihiro/Wazza at this point

@Lemonfairy

I want to say that tbh I don’t really buy Chihiro’s claim and I want to yeet there today anyway

VOTE: Chihiro

Also I don’t think a wolf just pushes on the PR like that so heavy like.

@Neon basically if I’m wrong on Gorta and we ML Lemon here we LOSE the game.
Please understand this.

@Lemonfairy

that’s the thing
I can’t see another mafia outside of my POE rn

+1 tbh. Like I only started suspecting Zone when he 180’ed on me and questioned me on how I vote.

@Lemonfairy

I think from this post, it’s likely that Zone is town and only one of Chihiro/Zorvo is scum

This to me doesn’t look like a teammate trying to put their other teammate as the town to me.

@Lemonfairy

oh, but I saw Zone saying they were Town Vengeful
if not, then forget it

@Lemonfairy

I am vetoing a Zone exe

A partner trying to veto their partner would be a……pushy. To say the least. Basically I don’t think that is what is happening here.

@Lemonfairy

I would vote Chihiro over Zone
I would vote Wazza over Zone
I would vote Neon over Zone

that is where I stand

Like just look at this, I don’t think Lemon is the type to shield a wolf like this XD.

@Lemonfairy

@Lemonfairy

that’s your conclusion?
gib me reads

@Frostwolf103

Diving deeper in my ISO you get some reads.

Also make your own

omg look at how unpartnered I am with Frost

There’s also this post lol.

@Lemonfairy

the way Frost tried to make Zorvo look bad for just going off their wrong list of people who voted Magnus leans unaligned

This is a good thought progress.

@Lemonfairy

still looks pretty unaligned with both Neon and Zorvo

The consistency of solving here. Although from their last wolf game, I suppose this isn’t AI.

@Lemonfairy

I kinda want to yeet Zone now

@Neon
@ElizaThePsycho

Bro like look at this progression and tell me it’s wolf, TELL ME!
(It’s not.)

@Lemonfairy

do you think Zone being wrong is more towny wrongness or is it more scummy?

@Lemonfairy

well, that’s because your POE sucks
and you tried to take out Wazza and just leave it at me/Neon

Yeah I’m gonna stop here.

Guys it just isn’t Lemon.

I’m pretty confident it’s just Gorta and Zone was controlling the game for his wolf team.

[Zorvo]

@ElizaThePsycho

people always assume that wolves are cold, calculating, emotionless, etc.
when this is definitely not the case and I hate it

I’m the opposite.
I presume the wolves play their best and I look at all worlds but if you think about it everything adds up for Gorta to be the last wolf with Zone leading the team.

Frost accuses Gorta but doesn’t end the vote there.
Gorta suspects Frost but votes Ashlyn.

The plan there was then trying to make sure their partner Frost doesn’t die day 1.

During the night they realized they would have to get rid of Frost and do something cause Frost looks real bad.

Next day.
Zone had it planned out in wolf chat that due to day 1 Frost is gonna go over anyway, so he prepared a case over night to buss him and this is Proven by just looking at the start of day 2.

Gorta decided to place and hold his vote on Frost for distancing purposes.
Frost voted me at the end and Zone was hoping to tie up the wagons so I could go over but @ElizaThePsycho luckily voted Frost before I could potentially be ML’ed.

Then after this Zone had to come in with a game plan after this buss but wasn’t expecting the Jailkeep.
Another thing to prove he was leading his team is the fact he performed the nightkill, this is fact from the Jailkeeper.
Meaning Zone didn’t feel comfortable having their other team perform the killing. Meaning Zone figured his partner was in a worse position or just not worth it.
See Zone was the PR and he performs both ability and PR, why does he do this.

Gorta bussed Frost.
Gorta he needed to keep alive.
Gorta is LHF and can easily be roleblocked or tracked and that is what Zone was afraid of.

So at the beginning of the day Zone was purposely trying to make it Him/Lissi vs Me/Magnus and his goal was to try to ML me and Magnus back to back.
He didn’t put any attention on Gorta AT ALL.

I also already explained the way Zone was talking to Lissi about Gorta is like Zone had no plans to vote Gorta until it’s his last of the PoE and by that time the mafia already would win.

[Zorvo]

@Zorvo

worse position

Sorry, technically better position.

[Zorvo]

But worse to perform the night kill

[Neon]

@Zorvo

This post got cut a bit in the wall thing I made but yeah.

This interaction is Not done by a partner to partner.

I literally do this exact thing all the time and so do lots of other wolfs Zorvo lol

[Neon]

@ElizaThePsycho

i still barely understand the gorta case, will need to check up on that

It’s not a great case if I’m honest.

It’s just repeating the same thing over and over about a post that a town could easily make.

[Neon]

@ElizaThePsycho

that is absolutely something a partner can say to a partner
it is

• unsubstantiated
• provides absolutely no content
• can be passed off as just a normal thing, which it is if lemon is town

and most of all
WOLVES DON’T CALCUALTE THEIR EVERY POST!!!
i mean, some do
but most often there will be some posts that they just threw out without calculating or thinking about how it will help them or whatever

[Neon]

@Zorvo

Also I really like this Mind Melt.

Zorvo being pocketed live and in color because someone agreed with him is the best thing I’ve seen all game lol

[Neon]

Your reasons to clear Lemon are all conjecture that is not town indicative and can easily be a wolf.

But another thing i need to work on is actually working with town.

I want Magnus and maybe Eliza to look over Gorta and Lemon with unbiased eyes because frankly I think me and Zorvo are tunneled and would like a 3rd set of eyes on both players please

@Magnus @ElizaThePsycho

I’d appreciate it

[Lemonfairy]

am back

Magnus is town
Zorvo’s POE makes sense
Eliza is always town
Neon is probably still town

VOTE: Gorta