Anyway I’m gonna be on mobile now oops
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used my whisper on spooky make sure to read it
Before we both get distracted again do you mind going over your read list and elaborating on it? I don’t expect it to be fully detailed, I just want to know why you felt the way you did.
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Lowkey I’ll answer that question but I am multitasking at best I might vanish for a hot second
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This is Zone’s town game when they were town in the last Ice Cream Mafia game.
This is Zone’s latest mafia game (that, I can find anyway)
In both games, they were far more active in discussing than they are this game. I don’t think this is indicative of their alignment, more so the mindset they have of this game and the player list. As mafia, they are fairly aggressive with pushing people and changing their votes in order to look impressive (or; the most likely answer, I think they just get bored with the game state as mafia)
Day one Zone posts in the mafia game
Mafia posts
Neighbor FM - Town Victory - #16 by Zone_Q11
Neighbor FM - Town Victory - #170 by Zone_Q11
Neighbor FM - Town Victory - #190 by Zone_Q11
I think they are also a lot more aggressive as mafia because they get bored fairly easily and so change their vote more often.
Compare that to their town pushes, which are less dramatic (minus the first push I’m about to list, but, they barely swapped votes d1)
If you look at the differences, I think this shows Zone’s pretty content to just lay his vote wherever it is if he’s town rather than constantly change it. This, meta read, is also pretty zone proof because even if he forgets how he plays, I think a lot of his play is based off his personality to begin with.
Fun fact, Zone almost six to seven months ago said
And this game, he said
Which matches what he said he feared as town in the past (people barely being active, barely voting) despite it being months later, sorta shows he’s viewing the game through the same lens as that game.
His vote progression on Leafia matches his first vote of the previous ice cream game too where he thought someone was trying to pocket him, again showing a similar outlook on people in the game
And this post further seals the deal
Delving into his own mind about why he’s distrusting leafia gg
D1 Voutecount 5
spookycat27 (3): Skrimiche, BradLand, pandora
Litten (2): Oricorio, spookycat27
Leafia (2): Kelsier, Zone_Q11
Marluna (2): Chomps, Leafia
Kelsier (2): Litten, Marluna
Not Voting (3): Garfooled, Frostwolf103, Wazza
You’ll learn how I operate in due time. Now good night everyone. 
I don’t even remember playing an Ice Cream FM.
*checks portfolio*
Oh, I did. This year in January.
(We forgor.)
Listen buddy, there’s only so much patience I can hold as either alignment. If I’m distracted, then it’s whatever, but once I run out of those, then all I can do is complain if I were to encounter the desert of silence.
Wait, but if this is based on my personality, then what would w!Zone do in this game?
(Zone, he literally just explained the differences in our meta. Apparently w!Zone would be more erratic in switching his votes.)
Oh, right. I didn’t pay enough attention.
(I’m not sure whether anyone can properly check us with only one game to compare, but… well, if it results in people townreading us, then it’s all good, I suppose.)
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The only thing I’m confused upon is how you seemed insistent that you solve via votes and then both games you were solving people and discussing people, and then this game, you are just sorta sitting around.
“Effort pays off.” Even if a player is Mafia, if they worked hard for it, then I’d be content losing against them. I vividly remember the Goblin BotF which made me think of that quote.
Coming from old NUF, I have formed a bias when it comes to something called “volume content”. The more one speaks, the more I believe they are town. Because in old NUF, people did not… “spend their time wisely”. But that was in the past; NUF nowadays have players who play the game normally. (Yet I’m still stuck in the past.)
Anyhow, this bias still exists within me, so when I look at Litten’s post, I immediately think: “Ah, yes. That’s Town.” But. this is Litten we’re talking about, and I don’t remember how dedicated he is as a wolf when it comes to faking psychoanalysis.
My safest bet is just to follow spooky’s P#204 and pay attention to him if he’s alive by F7.
–moving on: Leafia.
I am self-aware of my own incompetence, and most of the time I don’t even plan on fixing them. This is one of those moments. I pay way more attention to posts if it is related to myself or subjects of my interest, and I found none of those for the majority of her posts.
Even among her posts that caught my eye, nothing screams towny to me, so I’m planning to keep my vote as is. (Hopefully for good this time.)
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“Solving via votes” is a means to say “solving by finding the inconsistencies between intent, content, and action of voting”. When flips show up, I’d have more to work with, but as of now all I can do is “see why people vote and think for myself whether that makes sense or not”.
Let’s check the current VC, shall we?
Here’s what I see:
- People voting spooky are afraid of spooky. They don’t know what he is, but we all know he’s a competent wolf if he rands as one.
- Same logic to the people who vote you (Litten).
- I vote Leafia because I distrust her. Kelsier seems to have the same general opinion as mine.
- NGL, dunno why people are voting Luna. I haven’t checked the arguments.
- IIRC you and Luna voted Kel because you found some sort of slip or something. If it was a genuine slip, then I’d have seen more people talk about it. Considering I don’t see those talks, it must’ve been some questionable interpretation.
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Nothing in the votes are odd to me. Kel once mentioned how the VC was weird because of how spread out the votes were, but as I already stated I don’t exactly agree with that view. (D1 votes not being united is not surprising at all.)
If anything, it’s the non-voters whom I raise my eyebrow to. I don’t know much about Gar being a slanker, and Wazza has her own excuse, but I could’ve sworn that Frost usually talks more often. Yet I don’t feel his thread presence at all thus far.
Oh. He has yet to appear.
…I suppose that explains the lack of presence.
I’ve worn myself out. I think I made myself town. This game is mostly an exercise for me to see whether or not I can effectively actually read people and lead town d1 or not. I’m probably misreading someone in my town reads, but that’s okay. I’ve listed out reasons I town read Zone, Leafia, Brad, Spooky. Out of all of them I would say Brad is my most confident, Spooky/Leafia/Zone I could be seeing as misreading them. Like Zone said, there’s a limit to what you can do from a sample size of two, but I do think what I saw lines up with their personality to begin with.
VOTE: Marluna
A lot of people are suspecting them in a silent way where they will probably want to just kill them at eod. I prefer that we start the wagon early enough so that they have a chance to actually interact with the game so that we have time to actually switch the wagon later if needed.
Town:
Brad
Zone
Spooky
Leafia
People I town read, but I don’t really have a hard justification for it:
Garfooled
Kel
Chomps
People I don’t care about right now
Wazza
Ori
Frost
Skirmische
People I should probably care about right now but I’m too tired and too blind to do so
Ori
Skirmische
Wolf reading
Pandora
Marluna
I think Chomps point that Marluna was commenting about to seem as though they were town was fair and I think it’s beneficial to be wolf reading them right now to support my town win con. I still don’t like the direction of Pandora’s pushes, I still think their posting reminds me of lunacy, that being said if Pandora truly believes Leafia and or Brad are mafia and they are town slap me across the face multiple times as you might be right and sometimes you need to smack a litten to get him to be right.
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Greetings
100 posts in 10 hours why is it going down
Yes you were town and people thought you were town due to that opener which is my main problem with that opener as i said it feels like you reusing something which worked here which i dont see a town leafia doing
And i cant reply to the latter messages because giving advice to evils and all