Ice Cream Mafia 2 - Day 4 (8/14)

[Garfooled]

i had rip off hotdogs, aka just bread and sausage

[Garfooled]

@Skrimiche

what about their play is unusual? (<- not familiar with them as a player)

they dont work this hard usually, they usually just follow a pattern no matter what alignment they are

[Litten]

A player who subbed in, is new to fol culture, has difficult trying to digest a lot of the wall posts or what happened so wanted live posting,

[Garfooled]

this post kinda pinged me a bit, i bookmarked it and came back to it
i mean fair enough
could’ve been a slip, but i think it could go either way so its really NAI

[Litten]

@spookycat27 you hammered them as mafia. you probably had to deal with similar posting where they are in a position of weakness and could easily be executed. What’s your thoughts on this

[Litten]

Do you have any hard suspects

[Skrimiche]

saving these for later (was gonna quote more but there’s other stuff i wanna post/ask rn)

litten

@Litten

I’ve worn myself out. I think I made myself town. This game is mostly an exercise for me to see whether or not I can effectively actually read people and lead town d1 or not. I’m probably misreading someone in my town reads, but that’s okay. I’ve listed out reasons I town read Zone, Leafia, Brad, Spooky. Out of all of them I would say Brad is my most confident, Spooky/Leafia/Zone I could be seeing as misreading them. Like Zone said, there’s a limit to what you can do from a sample size of two, but I do think what I saw lines up with their personality to begin with.

VOTE: Marluna
A lot of people are suspecting them in a silent way where they will probably want to just kill them at eod. I prefer that we start the wagon early enough so that they have a chance to actually interact with the game so that we have time to actually switch the wagon later if needed.

@Litten

Marluna is a fairly mechanical player, it’s part of why I didn’t think they were a wolf here because it felt like they didn’t pay that close attention to mechanics which i would expect them to if they were a wolf, probably others that I don’t have time

@Chomps did you ever answer my question of why you chocolated me N1? (sorry if you already answered & i just didnt see it/forgot)

@Litten

The reason I’m voting Skrim is that are they are reactive, rather than proactive. This might seem like an insane take considering the fact that they have been asking insane amount of questions, have been instigating conflicts between people, but it’s an objectively true take.

i feel like my playstyle in general is more reactive than proactive (@spookycat27 corroborate me on this pookie) (unless im wrong) (i dont actually know my own meta that well so maybe i am wrong idk)

@Litten

I think Gar said it best that they are appearing appeasey right now.

im a people pleaser at heart B) it’s in my bones

[Garfooled]

atm im just raising a brow at my previous TRs bcus they got a TR and got too comfortable doing nothing.

[Skrimiche]

@spookycat27 can you explain your thoughts on litten? bc after skimming his ISO im not getting the impression of him having scum agenda

[Skrimiche]

@Litten

@Aleph

Litten as he’s not immediately SPKd (though i’m weakest given our Cop claim was killed)

Chomps as i find his ISO thoroughly uninspiring.

Oricorio as everything about their ISO entirely stilted, forced, and just off. Smoke there’s fire

Explain this. Why did you think these three people deserved the most attention out of everyone in the game? Why is Chomp uninspiring this game?

@Ishmael did you ever answer this re: Chomps?

[Garfooled]

@Litten

Do you think that was their motivation though? Does it strike you as what they were trying to do rather than what they could be doing?

This is what you mindmelded to? This specific post? Of Litten asking questions that are not alignment indicative?

@Skrimiche

no? revising/updating a read with more current information doesn’t make that read disingenuous

actually when i looked up what “addendum” meant i feel bad for doubting you actually. i should’ve googled when i didn’t understand what words mean lol

@Skrimiche

idk what youre trying to say here. can you reword it?

you admitted to just focusing on Litten for a while, while just picking their brain rather than trying to learn their alignment.

[Skrimiche]

@Litten

Which kinda just leaves me with Brad, who I town read d1 but am kinda regretting with their absence who skill level I could see fool me

tbf brad did say that he was caught up w irl stuff

i am wondering why he voted chomps tho (#1160). @BradLand can you answer this when you have time (preferably before EoD)?

[Garfooled]

what are you currently looking at?

[Garfooled]

@Garfooled

you admitted to just focusing on Litten for a while, while just picking their brain rather than trying to learn their alignment.

it just irks me that you talked to Litten as though you felt comfortable with them, as if you held zero suspicion of them

[Skrimiche]

@Garfooled

This is what you mindmelded to? This specific post? Of Litten asking questions that are not alignment indicative?

yes, because it’s exactly* what i wouldve asked if i was in his position
(*maybe not that exact phrasing/wording but it’s p much the same vein of thinking re: trying to evaluate player motive & whether those motives are more likely to come from town or scum)

@Garfooled

actually when i looked up what “addendum” meant i feel bad for doubting you actually. i should’ve googled when i didn’t understand what words mean lol

all good lol

@Garfooled

you admitted to just focusing on Litten for a while, while just picking their brain rather than trying to learn their alignment.

ah okay, ty for clarifying
explanation: i like asking people how they approach gamesolving to go back and reference postgame bc i think it helps me improve as a player in the long run

so yeah it’s not +EV for town and im doing it for personal reasons, but idt that’s scummy in a vaccuum. if you wanna scumread me, do it for other reasons (e.g. my EoD1 play)

@Garfooled

what are you currently looking at?

was looking at litten’s ISO and had to open other posts for context, then saw other posts that i wanted to probe/respond to

im done w litten though so rn im making an updated reads list

[Skrimiche]

well at the time i posted that, i didnt have any reason to suspect him
and i still dont after looking at his more recent posts, hence why i wanna know why spooky is SRing(?) him

[Skrimiche]

@Skrimiche

well at the time i posted that, i didnt have any reason to suspect him

(bc i was townreading him at that time)
(im still townreading him but it’s not as strong as it was d1)

[Garfooled]

@Skrimiche

im done w litten though so rn im making an updated reads list

why are we hyperfocusing on litten again?

[Skrimiche]

because he was my strongest TR D1 and i remember wanting to reevaluate him to see if that read would still hold up d1

[Garfooled]

do you have any other TRs