Ice Cream Mafia 2 - MAFIA VICTORY

also this was real btw
i was making a powerpoint for worldbuilding and got so into it that i forgot about EoD until ~10 min afterwards l0l

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Game

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Ggwp didnt except a zone wolf or chomps or litten/ishmael tbh

Ty for hosting

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the hardest part about playing on fol

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Nuuu my replacement D:

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If anyone can successfully herd cats, it’s you.

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ok

i stand by this even if your alignment is mafia. think that ate d2 was pretty egregious and soon as i say something about it i get told to tone it down. everybody in game seemed to be fine with it as well

Yes, in hindsight even I realize that I was too
 extreme with my response. For what it’s worth, I do apologize for my past behavior.

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Where did Zone AtE?
Telling someone “how old are you” would drive either alignment to be angry.

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I don’t think Zone excessively AtEd (I skimmed all of his posts, and read those around tepig, but I didn’t read all in depth)*

People go 10 times farther on MU than on FoL (as someone who plays on both sites)

It’s also worth noting that Zone is neurodivergent (I think? I’m pretty sure?) which comes with the baggage of being interpreted as worse than intended

Rant.

So
 about tepig
 I was genuinely upset at the lack of arguments coming from him. I wouldn’t say I appealed to others’ emotions, but I sure as hell was emotional when I received “no snooze one-liners” from him.

I won’t say that he had only given one-liners, but it was particularly those posts that triggered me to no ends. It is uh
 what do you call it
 “performative”. (And I wasn’t even Town; his posts genuinely looked bad to me regardless of my alignment.)

Also, townreading someone because of meta is stupid. Not because it is stupid to read people based on their meta, but the entire argument was literally:

He didn’t say “I remember Brad [exerting this type of behavior] at another game when we played together. Here is the [link] to that game as proof.”

It was one singular word, and I’m meant to somehow have an opinion on that? I can’t even agree or disagree, because there was nothing further given. Suppose you don’t know how to read Player X, yet the only one who claims to be able to read Player X says that Player X is Town because of “meta”. Nobody else supported it; just some rando claims “meta says Player X is Town”.

Now granted, in hindsight -now that I have cooled down- I could have asked for more context, but in the heat of the moment -after seeing him complain about the lack of players and fluffposting- I was not exactly what anyone could consider “calm”.


sigh. I can’t guarantee I won’t snap my fuse again in the future, but while I’m calm now at least, I will continue offering my apologies to tepig. I don’t like his play style, but what I did was unacceptable, and I shouldn’t have gone that far.

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Example of excessive AtE (that is moderatable): “You people make me sick. I have not seen more garbage players. I am never talking to any of you again.”

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katze is one of the stupidest players I’ve ever seen. Literally every time I play with them they make some sort of dumb read that no one understands and get upset at people for not listening. I wish she would just quit the site.

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oh. In that case I’m 100% guilty.

Other than that
 I don’t recall personally attacking tepig, though I definitely said I wouldn’t proactively start a topic with him anymore.

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Oh okay I missed that post. Yeah, probably uncalled for :P

Just because it’s not clear where your disgust at pointed at. Disgust at tepig, or disgust at his reasoning. “I am disgusted at your reasonings / argument / post” - I don’t think that is that out of line, even though it isn’t polite.

Maybe tepig interpreted it as “I am disgusted at you personally (tepig)”?

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@anon80168131 This probably resolves the miscommunication; I don’t think that Zone meant to say disgust at you (tepig, the person). Imagine a neurodivergent guy who is extremely passionate about Mafia. When the special interest is disregarded there can be a sharp reaction, but it is different than, like, a neurotypical person specifically trying to talk shit to another person out of, say, sadism, or take out their anger on them

Well, yeah. That’s my point.
One word doesn’t tell me anything.

People are forced to either assume or stay confused.

Brad is Town. Why? Meta.
Tepig is Mafia. Why? Disgust.

Humans tend to use bias to fill in the blanks, and those “fillings” can differ per person. I don’t need my interpretation of “meta”; I need tepig’s interpretation of “meta”.

Why is Brad Town? What games did you play together? What behavior is Brad exerting that he has done in the past as Town?
The answers to these questions were condensed into one word: “meta”.

I don’t care if he thinks “one-liners are not snoozers”; I need answers, and he didn’t give it to me!

(Side-topic: This is why I appreciated Skrim’s response. When I was struggling with Leafia’s answers, he gave me concise answers instead of vague answers like: “I already said that.”)

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i myself struggle with understanding what people are trying to say in their posts sometimes & i’ll ask them to rephrase/repeat what they’re saying until it clicks for me, so i totally get it đŸ«Ą

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tutuu is a professional conflict resolver
good job tutuu
i am proud

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