i aint being angel’d
I would if you are about to die.
If not, then uh… Your choice.
Hob don’t convert n1, they’ve failed once (n2)
and im not sure if the ability disabling even counts as a fail
i am about to go to sleep.
i would rather not die while i am sleeping.
Oh yeah. I forgot to do that.
(I did think about it, but then I didn’t.)
no they havent. they cant convert the night a hand dies
…eh, fair enough.
(What if Chomps is non-Arbiter HoB?)
…FFS, I hate my paranoia.
yes that’s why I was wondering if the ability disabling counts as a fail
I don’t think it does
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It’s not that they failed to convert at N2; It’s that they can’t. (It was disabled.) Neither BD nor HoB can convert after one of their members get executed.
That would require Chomps to be magistrate, to not use judicial decree, and then also sacrifice themselves and stop a conversion the following night because we hung a HoB member
admittedly it would allow the arbiter to convert
Well you can’t die at day phase anymore unless we hammer you, and considering:
- Jarek wants Daeron dead,
- Sayno wants Hazard dead, (oh, wait. this is you)
- I want Achro dead,
- “etc.”
I don’t think you are in any trouble.
I’m afraid I don’t follow this part of your thought process. (But yes, I do understand that we will execute the heck out of Chomps if they don’t activate Judicial Decree Today. …it doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t impossible for them to be evil though.)
In the scenario Chomps is Magistrate (or any HoB member I suppose) and doesn’t use Judicial Decree, and we execute wrongly today, then the Arbiter would convert tonight (3 members) and then the following day we would execute Chomps and it would go down to 2 members, and a conversion would be stopped during the night
We would then have another shot at sniping the arbiter
however
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this is also assuming the arbiter doesn’t hit anyone conversion immune too, or gets happy houred by carbonated
Y’know, all I can think of whenever I see Derps’ flip is… “Now Sayno’s POE only consists of Hazardwaste,” and boy do I want to execute him (Sayno) along with Achro.
but presumably we use happy hour on chomps if they dont judicial decree
I think that’s best anyway
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Ah, so you understand. Mmn… Now that I have calmed down, I am more open to… whatever you want to do. Let’s see, what was I talking about…?
Edge case: Chomps is evil. (Solved -> carbonated HH Chomps. Execute Chomps D4.)
(Now, what was the main case again…?)
Main case: Chomps is good. (Mass claim)
…oh, right. This thing. Yeah, uh. I’m still not comfortable with it, but if you can get others to agree, then I’ll do it.
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Scenario 1: Chomps uses judicial decree (most likely and winning scenario):
- We have 2 lynches, if we miss Arbiter then Marshal has conversion immunity & can make someone else conversion immune, carbonated can attempt to happy hour the Arbiter.
Scenario 2: Chomps doesn’t use judicial decree:
- We have 1 lynch. If we miss Arbiter, carbonated happy hours Chomps.
Scenario 3: If Chomps is Arbiter (Best Scenario):
- A conversion is stopped
- Chomps is lynched tomorrow, HoB have 1 member and can’t convert during the night
Scenario 4: If Chomps is non-Arbiter HoB:
- The Arbiter converts unless they hit conversion immunity
- Chomps is lynched tomorrow, which prevents HoB converting during the night. HoB would be at 2 players and it would be day with one newly converted HoB member and the Arbiter.
Scenario 5 (Worst Scenario): If Chomps is Neutral:
- The Arbiter converts unless they hit conversion immunity
- Chomps is lynched tomorrow, which allows the Arbiter to convert again unless they hit conversion immunity
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And obviously if we do this, our lynches are more informed because everyone has claimed, which makes the odds of lynching HoB and stopping a convert better
Also, Scenario 4 & 5 are non-issues if we execute HoB with the one lynch we would have without judicial decree
If Chomps is neutral we have 2 members that we could find
So the worst case scenario is the least likely to occur
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