Last Stand of the Virtuous 5.5 - GAME OVER, UNSEEN AND ANGEL WIN

who wanna get flock of crowed or shall i wait to use it

also plz use conversion immunity on me, mafia might try and convert m. if im part of towncore

I can see it. I trlly dont wanna be converted LOL

…y’know what’s odd? Nobody has yet to claim to be occupied or redirected other than me at N2.

  • Achro claimed redirected N1.
  • Kii was occupied N1 according to Frost’s and Kii’s claims.
  • Jarek was occupied N1 according to Frost’s claim.

Then there’s me who’s supposedly redirected at N2… according to Frost.

((Hang on a minute. Why is ¾ of all manipulation claims coming from Frost?))


List of players who did not claim to be manipulated (either directly or indirectly): Jarek, Sayno, Rowen, jail, Frost, Achro.

Leftovers: Canping, Chomps, Zone, Hazard, Ash, Kiiruma, carbonated.

carbonated is manip-immune, so it wouldn’t make sense to manip her. She also said she redirected Chomps to herself, so I can remove him from the list as well.

Ash is outed Illusionist; it makes no sense to manip him since Merpy had already used PM on jail.

Leftovers: Canping, Zone, Hazard, Kiiruma.

(Well. There’s also the fact that Chomps claimed Judge at D2. I think Daeron is the only one who remembered his claim, but if HoB noticed it as well, then it’d make no sense for Arbiter to manip the Judge at night.)

((What if… HoB is incompetent and didn’t see it?))

(…well I can’t deny that as a possibility, but uh. I’m not opening that can of worms.)

Up to you, really.

No offense, but uh. I wouldn’t let Sayno use conversion immunity on you. It’s always got to be the Duke. Duke has sentenced both you and Rowen; the two 99% Unseen Investigative duo. If they get converted to Warden, then you two are basically as good as dead.

I did not heal myself
n1 was zone
n2 was you. i was here when you claimed bled it was my plan since then

Oh yeah tru

If I were to cheat the game for a bit and look at the setup from a designer’s perspective, then it’d make sense to put 2 Protectives in a 17’er.

But if I were to confirm Hazard and myself, then POE (for Arbiter) becomes only Canping and Achro. (Meanwhile, the Duke has yet to out themselves.)

…yeah, no. As I thought I cannot let Achro live.

Death sentence was made ā€œone hour agoā€.
Claim was made ā€œtwo hours agoā€.

Whoever the Duke is, they haven’t been reading the game, so I can easily imagine a world where Canping is the Duke.


Confirmed Unseen:

  • Sayno - Marshal

99% Unseen:

  • Canping - Duke (not confirmed)
  • Rowen - Doomsayer
  • jail - Nightwatch
  • carbonated - Alcoholic

Confirmed Not Arbiter:

  • Jarek - Sibyl / Fortune Teller
  • Ash - Illusionist / Librarian
  • Daeron - Corrupted King / Purified King

Remaining claims:

  • Chomps - Judge
  • Zone_Q11 - Enforcer
  • Hazardwaste - Herbalist
  • Frostwolf103 - Stalker
  • Achromatic - Chancellor
  • Kiiruma - Baronet

Frost and Kii’s infos are paired.
Hazard and I are meta confirmed.

That just leaves Chomps and Achro, no?

I want to execute Chomps over Achro first, but if I do that, then Decree would most likely not trigger, so I am forced to choose someone I have ā€œclearedā€ before…

@Chomps, if you think I’m Unseen, then please Decree Frost.

We’re going to execute Achro Today.

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Okay :thinking:

What is it so hard to understand that I am not arbiter.

I got bleeding. Someone wants me dead :( who was the herbalist tho?

Hazard is herbalist

If you want to Decree me, then that’s fine too.
I have spent way too much time on trying to solve this game mechanically. Daeron’s the runner up to my position in terms of mech hunting; Kiiruma only states mech when asked and uses mech to defend himself. He doesn’t try to reach anything outside of it. (At least, from what I have seen.)

The thing is: I suspect the King is evil and has the Paranoid Archetype. His occupation would explain why there were so many manipulations (i.e., occupations and redirections) at N1, but then it came to my attention that… most of the reports about said manipulations came from Frost. Frost looks towny because he claimed being bled D2, but we can’t confirm that, especially since Hazard claimed to have cured him.

Yes. It’s the classic ā€œhe could be lyingā€ argument. I get it’s a weak argument, but I gotta cover as much ground as I can. I am trusting Hazard because if he’s not Herbalist, then this setup would only have me as protective, and I simply don’t believe in that world.

Same issue as me, Hazard, Kii, etc.: No proof.

Even Rowen and jail are only 99% confirmed and not 100% because I remembered that fake visits exist.

I mean i got bleeding so if i die to bleeding then maybe…

Issue: They are going to attack Hazard and redirect or occupy me.

(Eh, worse -not worst- case scenario we mis-execute Today and Hazard gets converted.)

I… I don’t know what to do anymore.
I am getting weary.

You won’t die Tonight (N3), but at the end of N4.
Technically Hazard has time before you bleed out, but… URGH. This would all be solved if we just execute the Arbiter Today!

If Arbiter dies Today, then I can’t be manipulated, Hazard can cure your bleeding, and I wouldn’t have to be paranoid of a third Arbiter anymore!