Last Stand of the Virtuous 5.5 - GAME OVER, UNSEEN AND ANGEL WIN

bard comes from minstrel & timesnatcher, and nobody is either of those
and the starting convert is now arbiter
so zone is confirmed unseen

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I am

which I quickly dropped because Kiiruma was found to have been visited by more than 3 people n1 by jail which meant he was actually very likely occupied and not socialite using factiion links

which leaves achro as our arbiter

bruh you fucked up my investigation i thought they were converted

@Achromatic @Rowen please check in asap and claim actions

Hot take I should have been checked

Night 4 Thought Process

ā€œcarbonated probably redirected Sayno to ensure N3 convert. Who did HoBs attempt to convert at N3?ā€

  • Not Daeron, 'cuz King
  • Not Zone, 'cuz ā€œI am meā€
  • Probably not Sayno, 'cuz Frostwolf said succesful visit
  • Probably not Frostwolf, 'cuz blind trust
  • Probably not Canping, 'cuz [BLEEP] at D3
  • Probably not Achro, 'cuz he’s top Arbiter suspect

POE:

  • Jarek
  • Hazard
  • Rowen
  • Ash
  • Kiiruma

ā€œWhat were the HoBs doing with their manipulations?ā€

  • N1 Jarek occ’ed by King
  • N1 Kii occ’er by Arbiter
  • N1 Achro? redirected by Overseer
  • N2 ??? ??? by Arbiter
  • N2 Zone redirected by Overseer
  • D3 King occ’ed by Overseer
  • N3 ??? ??? by Arbiter
  • N3 Marshal redirected by Overseer

I haven’t found enough info… But these ought to be enough building blocks for super-paranoid Zone to work with.


Arbiter can only be four players:

  • Achro
  • Kii
  • Frost
  • Rowen

All claim until D3 are solid minus one; there can only be one Random HoB who got promoted to Arbiter. Any N3 claims are solid minus two in case of N3 convert. I’m not going to bother taking Neutrals to account; too bothersome.

Frost is way too supportive; I’m going to blindly trust him as Starting Unseen. Claiming Kii didn’t visit anyone N1, on top of jail’s N1 info… This does imply Kii is Starting Unseen.

Rowen is the issue. N1 Self-Watcher claim was late; N2 claim was after Jarek; N3 info could be him bussing carbonated. (Arbiter knows who visited their target; if Rowen is Arbiter and redirected Sayno, then he’d have seen Hazard.)

Hm… Nah, this is too overcomplicated. carbonated might have derped at EOD2, but based on that event I doubt the HoBs would bus carbonated… for credit… ((I’ll put this on the back of my mind.))

Okay, so it’s just Achro. I am missing a ton of manips from HoBs, but I am praying they are just insignificant. E.g., targeting me, Derps, or Kii. ((Still doesn’t explain what happened at N2 though…))

Which leads me… back to the N3 convert suspects. Jarek, Hazard, Rowen, Ash, Kii. I should probably start by checking their convert classes.

Fortune Teller, Surgeon, Governor, Librarian, Duelist. I am not finding any value in any of these roles, so I’m going to assume they converted under the idea of whoever can deepwolf the best. …it’s time to SBPCWWE –or so I’d like to say, but I’ll leave that over to the next Zone.


N1 Zone (Hazard) or Jarek (Daeron)
N2 Frost? (Hazard) or Derps (Angel)
N3 jail

If I holster now, then there’d be no way to prove myself other than having Frost defend me because he saw me visit Hazard at N2. Except Arbiter can fake visits, so people might BS about Arbiter!Zone forgetting to use fake visits.

Arbiter will most likely use me as a means to kill another player, but… Wait a minute. Nothing will change. Arbiter has a one-time death immunity, so even if I shoot Achro, then he’d just survive.

I can’t believe this, but… I am supposed to shoot N3 convert POE and pray I hit correctly? There’s no way HoB would holster because they need as many Unseen dead as soon as possible. Rowen and Frost will probably watch over me; there’s no way both are evil. Even if I get redirected, I would still be confirmed Unseen.

I have to shoot… someone who is neither Achro nor Rowen. Jarek, Hazard, Ash, Kii.

…man, it just doesn’t feel good no matter how I spin it. At this point it’s a matter of favoritism. ((…y’know, there’s also SBPCWWE.))

…to whomever I’m going to shoot: You should have posted more.


Kii - 30
Ash - 84
Hazard - 126
Jarek - 120

Bye Kii.

but i mean i also thought they were converted lmao

Convert + kill into 3v4. Bit more precarious.

that’s not a hot take
you’re getting hung first in convert hunt

Frost super thinks I was converted I bet a few people do because I’m a juicy target but the thing about being a juicy target is that evils don’t have the guts to go for you

No I’m not lol

if you’re not converted who is?

I call dibs on the Carbon pelt.
[hiss, hiss]

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Yes the convert continuously pushes the arbiter, pushes the other convert and continues to hand out beneficial cards at the expense of their team…

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since 2 of them is dead, i think its achro over rowen

You took what I pointed out and ran with it. Personally, I thought it was too good to be true.

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you literally can’t do anything but hand out beneficial cards at the expense of your team
if you ever don’t give out a card we’re immediately hanging you

If I knew that the player who was converted would be dead