@Daeron @katze remember that Hazard claimed he visited Atlas as whoever attacked him gets bleed?
Whatever happened to that?
Jarek has ruled that bleeds last two nights
They should die this night
Kelsier cannot be starting BD, could be converted. i donāt see any immediate way to confirm kelsier as non-converted
for catbae to be starting BD he would have had to fakeclaim Senex while sentenced and also be a BD role that specifically investigated as unseen N1 or tampered with daerons check otherwise ā provided they arenāt starting BD they cannot be converted
for pandora to be starting BD she would have to be a role that investigates as unseen N1
- i dont think itās possible for pandora to be the heroine on N1 given MKP/Amelia both flipped it
- she could be Paladin who self bled D1, but they would have to have been healed of it by now (and the only way Paladin can heal itself involves bleeding someone else)
- she could be Drunk who redirected Kiiruma to herself, but this is extremely unlikely and I think he would have gotten redirection feedback anyway?
- if itās possible for one of Amelia/MKP to have been a Physician/Alchemist, they could have targeted her N1 (i donāt think this is possible but this is aleady a lot of effort so im not double checking that)
- she could be the Squire
- she could be Mystic who used her CtA ability on N1 (and then didnāt use her role otherwise)
ā¦ all of that seems really unlikely to me except maybe squire. she could be converted
for Daeron to be starting BD then the entire Visionary/Senex stuff would have to be fake, or Willow would have to basically be throwing/trolling. could be converted
for Frost to be starting BD he would have to be exactly the Alchemist and just roleplaying Sibyl, as well as being catbaeās pupil to explain the N1 check Daeron got. could be converted (ok im tired of saying this, literally anyone can be converted)
for Zone to be BD, he would be a role that had a reason to visit Chomps N1; which idk how likely this is or isnt so i will just assume that probably rules out only half the roles or so
for Hazard to be BD then he would essentially have to be exactly the Paladin who either fakebled zone or used their one shot ability on Chomps (personally seems sorta unlikely but idk for sure)
(or, if the bleed isnāt confirmed to be a night bleed, they could be ~any BD role due to Heroine being alive D2 and having bleeds)
for me to be BD then uhā¦ idk lol im not bd hope that helps 
Hereās proof
Yes so they should die N4 because Jarek has nerfed bleeds
hm
so if hazard is real then the third starting BD should die tonight which means if conversion hunting was literally at all possible it would be optimal?
ok so i thought convert had a 1 night cooldown but i dont see that in the OP, just that it cant be done after a BD is killed
i was about to say by that logic we should never execute hazard today since he cant convert tonight if 3rd BD but uh, he might be able to
eh thereās a few roles that could stop this so it wouldnt be guaranteed anyway
Hmm?
Oh I see.
Either way I am not voting Catbae
yea voting catbae seems like a waste
i was considering whether or not forcing kelsier to execute catbae tonight is the play but then i got distracted looking at mech
Then again clever fakeclaim because the bleed allow them to blend in.
I just asked Jarek. If Sibyl is converted they get another death card to hand out - hilarious
That viscount saved Kelsier from executing, imagine how Zone forgot to take that in account, bit of selfish but. I understand heās upset.
scratch this it does have a 1 night cooldown but i already talked myself out of this making hazard optimal to not execute
I could try, but I am unable to get another one so far.
Since you know, I only get one
oh thats kinda terrifying
if frost is converted and is the pupil then its effectively 3v5 and the games over on one miss because theyād get a gun tomorrow lol
Why the fuck did my bleed not work