Last Stand of the Virtuous 5.5 [Jarek Redux] - BD/Decadent King Win!

shrug i agree that frost is playing uber wolfy

like frost was suspected to be the most likely to be pupil. he claims a prestige role that would give BD KP if converted. he has a marchioness greencheck on him. his posting is terrible. he’s just converted

the fact I’ve managed to pickup suspicion over him, like nobody has batted an eye at frost and I’ve received multiple votes, is insane
and me being original Blue Dragon and converted Blue Dragon hinges on fringe cases that aren’t logical but theoretically could’ve happened

frost votes me because he thinks its “interesting to see where it leads”
right into the fucking jaws of his victory is where it leads of course he’s interested to see where it leads LMAO

katze (1): Frostwolf103
catbae (1): Zone_Q11

Not Voting (4): pandora, katze, Daeron, catbae

sup daeron

alrighty so if frost is the convert; whos the starting BD?

why arent pandora/zone converted iyo

absolutely no clue they’ve been under my radar since the start of the game evidently with how the game has been going since min execution day

because converting me, Pandora or Zone yesterday is mechanically terrible and borderline throwing (I could see pandora but let’s be real the convert is just Frost) - I have explained this all yesterday. And I don’t think the BD have been making decisions that are borderline throwing, they’d have had to have been completely unaware of the viscount night, but that doesn’t seem possible since they targeted Kiiruma with the kill

you were literally voting frost yesterday when I chose to not execute him because I thought his posting got a lot better at EoD and voted kelsier instead. why aren’t you also suspecting him today?

I can’t wait for kat to spontaneously wolfread me like he always does and hang me over frostwolf who is a caught wolf by PoE
make no mistake

like if I am BD then:

  1. willow lied about her protoge and shielded me from being shot because she felt like it despite me wolfreading her at the time.
  2. I attempted to clear three players when I would’ve been the last alive BD which would narrow PoE massively - how could I have known Willow was viscount and that town wouldn’t have multiple extra days to execute outside of all the players I cleared?
  3. I completely bussed Amelia and leave myself as last standing, are we forgetting I was responsible for Amelia’s execution over min who I also shielded for two days in a row?
  4. I softed guest list for the fun of it I guess?
  5. I am not going to repeat myself on the reasons why I am not converted, or at least I hope I don’t have to, but its sort of insane how I have to continuously mention that I am quite literally a VT and no, spoiler alert, the BD did not convert the vanilla town on a free convert night. sorry to burst all of your fantasy land paranoia bubbles

can we please hang frostwolf today

outside of FAM (where i dont think i wolfread you at any point? i feel like at worst i was just mildly more reluctant to towncore u but idk could be wrong) i legit dont remember any other games we played together except the w/w one like 5 years ago so idk what this is about :wowee:

i would like you to have at least a bit of a clue here tho :pleading_face:


(i am intentionally being very opaque rn so no comment on the rest, just wanted your opinions :curtain:)

also I just had a thought that’s a tinfoil but Zone had a massive agenda during king day to have Frostwolf executed and has now dropped it completely so he has ever so slightly more equity to be starting BD that converted frostwolf than pandora does because that could be his reason for, you know, Completely Ignoring FrostWolf’s Existence Now

lets say, hypothetically, if frost is the third starting BD who do you think he converted

Kelsier or Hazard
Who are both dead and flipped town
So I don’t think Frost is starting BD

unless he converts Zone because Zone was deathtunneling him but that’d be like such a throw that I’m not entertaining it

like atp i kind of have to work with you even if i don’t trust you because frost is aggressively peddling nonsense, zone is being zone, and pandora is not playing the game

i have said i think frost is wolfy

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like if frost is a villager i am prepared to simply declare the game was unwinnable

Gamestate is weird.

Zone - me.
katze - Confirmed by Hazard’s shot.
pandora - UTR low-poster.

Frost, Daeron, catbae

Supposedly there are two BDs, yet both Daeron and catbae scumread Frost while Frost is voting katze. So unless pandora is secretly starting BD, then it implies either (1) Daeron/catbae both evil, or (2) one BD is bussing the other.

Daeron covered for catbae after the latter claimed at D3, and back then there was no convert yet since the conversion happens at N3. (There is never a reason to not convert then.)

…was there ever a reason why catbae can’t be a godfather-like role that makes himself appear as Unseen on checks?

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