Amelia (4): pandora, Atlas, Kiiruma, Daeron
min (2): catbae, Zone_Q11
Zone_Q11 (1): Frostwolf103
catbae (1): ElizaThePsycho
Not Voting (7): soweli, Hazardwaste, Kelsier, Rhea, Amelia, min, Chomps
cursed game
uh i had the wild ass thought that tailoring meme and killing him here is useful if soweli is mafia and scum wanted to discredit a voter - maybe were too worried frost would be docced
thatās kind of tinfoily but random thought that entered my head so i might as well post it
Thatās possible I guess. Other than that I donāt think the soweli wagon has much to be read into here because of the main wagon already flipping town
itās a random ass thought and probably not real but i just figure typing out every crazy thing i think is useful just to show i am thinking about the game
i think the main person who would think that is you, my friend
i think only me you and maybe kii gave a public townread on him
Kiiruma - The towniest of town, I donāt know how you canāt read this serious gamer. Has been doing some mech talk, trying to do a bit of reads, nothing too strong but Iām going to try and improve. Overall this slot is LOCK UNSEEN and hopefully others will realise that at some point. Yes I know I can be converted, yes I know wolves might look at me and see ā2024 best mech playerā and salivate at the thought, but I like not being in the āKiiruma always evil in conversion gamesā era.
Kelsier - Kelserās early posts were kinda nothing posts? This being the follow up post to this post and these being some of Kelsierās earlier game related posts is somewhat concerning. It was 30 posts in and that amount of fluff to then say something weird is ehhhhh. I like how Kelsier had questioned why people were on me early-ish D1 but it was more of a question than any form of defence or opinion which I would have liked to see. I think despite Kelsierās slot being so big, Kelsierās kinda been trying to not draw too much attention and is just trying to keep on⦠Everyoneās good side which feels weird. I think some of the posts have been fine but considering the fact this is a top poster and a lot of posts ping me badly this is Null, lean Wolf.
Min - The slot early on gave a town read on Amelia and Kelsier but I want to know more why because at the moment theyāre relatively naked reads. This is one of the more interesting posts but it doesnāt really tell us much about Min except Min being slightly relaxed which is a good look since Min doesnāt play as much of these games as some other names in here and Iād think if Min is wolf, Min might look a bit more stinted and nervous? As a result Min is a Null, lean Town. It will be nice to be able to see more things to analyse when Min is less busy.
Frost - This is the first noteworthy post of the Frost ISO Iād like to discuss. Within it Frost actually says about Meme being towny because of voting Hazard off the bat which feels like a bit weird considering the BD flip on Meme now. A decent bit of the reads further to this felt like they werenāt trying to solve too much - 6 null reads, a town read on the flipped wolf. I also think Frost has said some things which donāt make sense to me namely whatever the heck this is. I think Frostās posts have been so weird that I think W!Frost would be more self aware? But I donāt know if Iām giving Frost too much credit here when he is ā2024 Best Town Playerā and these posts feel wacky. Frost being so weird and semi-wolfy due to it but being almost too weird means I have to leave this slot as a True Null
Zone - As much as the immediate claim annoyed the fuck out of me, I think Zoneās pretty towny for it and despite the fact Atlas correctly pointed out about this not making sense as a claim, it doesnāt change how it reads for the slot. I think Zoneās posts involving Meme starting here (Zone made a post, Meme responded to it and Zone responded back) are pretty fine, doesnāt look too paired. Further to this I agree with this take of Zoneās regarding Frostās read list regarding Zone, the read on Zone was somewhat pocket-y when compared to other reads which were lacking. After further looks at Zoneās N1 I think this just further reads as true and Zoneās been relatively towny throughout the ISO thus far so Iām not surprised this happened in retrospect. Zoneās my Top Town considering all this.
Amelia - This post by Amelia feels a bit weird, yes itās a relatively RVS vote so itās not something to read into strongly but I think considering Ameliaās opener of āI CC Kingā the fact that the first decent bit of Ameliaās ISO is multiple nothing things in a row is something to keep an eye on. Amelia made this discussing the differences between the factions and it doesnāt really say much alignment wise, the one thing in Amelia favour here is the discussions of how to combat the teams but I donāt think W!Amelia wouldnāt do this or anything. I think Ameliaās discussion regarding āslots Amelia might want to wagonā just feels very passive and like Amelia is trying not to draw the attention of others, which feels somewhat wolfy? Plus I might be biased but Amelia somewhat had OMGUS against me which is always hard to read as towny. Iād argue Amelia is a Null, lean Wolf considering the fact Ameliaās ISO has had a decent bit of hedging and trying to avoid the spotlight, Iād want to see more from the slot.
Willow - One of the biggest things which pings me about Willow is not liking multiple things which involve me which means I recognise I am going to have some biases here. Willowās side comment of Chomps/Me W/W and Willowās weak vote on me further to this felt like Willow was trying to just draw some attention and be like āHi guys I agree with you, letās vote out the mechanical playerā which is EHHHH. I like this start of an exchange between Willow and Chomps as in the end it feels very much like a town member just facepalming and then trying to get another person to realise whatās going on afterwards. I wish that Willow had more proper reads early on, as the only one of note on D1 to me in the ISO is the one of Catbae here and itās aight, nothing too noteworthy. I dislike how Willow was quick to jump to conclusions about the whole Meme flip since we donāt know what went on there, but considering multiple things Iāve seen in this ISO that Iām choosing not to ISO I think itās consistent with what Willow might be considering. Willow is Town Lean, better than null but nothing strong enough to go for Moderate.
Soweli - Now if you look at these posts with intricate levels of detail you realise exactly what Soweli is claiming to the point where Soweli doesnāt even need to say anything else, itās pure genius. Soweli honestly is just Lock Town and thatās not even a question. In all honesty⦠what am I meant to do here? Soweli existed for less than the hosts have existed and Iām used to T!Soweli being more active so naturally Iām a bit suspicious of the slot and would go for Soweli being NULL, lean Wolf.
Pandora - Pandoraās been a vibe read for me early on but I think that Pandora has a few posts that are pretty decent too. This feels like something which W!Pandora wouldnāt post because āI plead the bleedā is a really weird thing to say and people could side eye it otherwise. Pandora further to this had a relatively early and correct read on meme (Assuming a lack of tailoring is going on), Iād probably have wanted more depth but . I also think that W!Pandora doesnāt āforget to voteā which is slight town points. Pandora is Moderate Town and I realise that considering itās a combination of vibes and some things Iām reading into perhaps more than I should be that Pandora should maybe be lower to others but idk this is my vibe read of the wall.
Catbae - One of my biggest qualms with catbae appears early in the ISO here as it feels like catbae is saying Chompsā behaviour is suspicious but instead of voting for it here, Chomps just says it and leaves the RVS vote on me when otherwise it sounds like they have āstrongerā things than the naked vote that was placed on me. Further to this catbae said this regarding meme which feels like a weak attempt to just having meme as someone catbae likes for future prospects? Catbae has also attempted to āconsider worlds where the flip is falseā and build from there which I donāt fully know how to feel in the end, since it could easily suggest a pairing between Catbae and Meme but I think the more recent post here isnāt going to be made by a W!Catbae because Catbae would rather just leave the meme discussion in the back and work on integrating himself within townās ātrust circlesā, as a result catbae is Town Lean.
Hazard - Hi Hazard. Yes I know youāre suspicious of me when I just say Hi and only that so good luck
For my Assuie mate (And anybody else who wants to)
Actual Hazard ISO: I think Hazardās early posts regarding his reads on me feel natural. I donāt think heās like āsuper townyā this game but heās overall been ok as Iāve commented on earlier today. This is something which I like from the slot as it is good progression from Hazardās earlier read on me and explaining about how he sees my slot and understands my ass is⦠Always more wolfy than it should be x3 I do think itās interesting how Hazard said he was relatively confident on reading MKP but had them as Town at the time, I donāt think W!Hazard does this about a teammate particularly early based on experience with him so heās probably unpaired with meme and presuming a true flip, that would mean Hazard is semi town. Considering the reads heās made on me and his relaxed nature this game as can be seen multiple times in his ISO, Hazard is Moderate Town to me at this time, I do think his posts are also within his Neutral range, considering last game, not turning anybody against him strongly, but not really drawing too much attention.
Atlas - I think Atlas is towny. Iām thinking that the paranoid king thing actually comes across as pretty pro-town since it encourages TPs to be elsewhere whereas W!Atlas can make them be more split up amongst other targets. I also like the questions Atlas has been asking to others including myself. But considering the fact Atlas is a King, Atlas does have a HIGHER chance to be on the evil team than an average player by a considerable margin, Iād say Atlas is Town Lean to me because the reads have been decent, the mechanical posts have read as good too but Iām not going to neglect the fact that statistics should make me cautious regarding this slot.
Rhea - Let me preface this by saying that Rhea is a very strong player and I treat Rhea a bit more harshly than I do for some others. I think that Rheaās posts early on were quite towny for the most part but I remember that Iād somewhat disliked the change up within one post here. Rheaās burnout means Iām not able to be too confident on the read in the end but I liked the most recent post by the slot since it covered the wagons and gave some weak-ish thoughts and I think W!Rhea might have pushed agenda there which it doesnāt feel like happened? Overall Rhea is Null, Lean Town but I wish to see more from this slot and I hope Rhea recovers because stress is a bitch. RL comes before the game.
Daeron - I have to admit I really like this by Daeron because I donāt think Iād ever imagine this coming from W!Daeron this early on, especially considering itās shortly followed up by this. My biggest issue is I feel like Daeron could easily be trying to pocket me and I mean itās working lmao. This feels like a more natural way of reacting to the flip of meme which doesnāt feel like itās attempting to push agenda or a wolf crying internally but a player being like āWTF is this lolā. Daeron is Moderate Town but I could easily be clouded at some stages, I think that I want more depth on some of Daeronās reads this game but other than that the slot feels so relaxed and natural and I think Daeronās a less confident wolf so might be less āovertly townyā there?
Chomps - Iāve stated this once, Iāve stated this many times. I struggle to read Chomps SO MUCH but I think that Chompsā things with regards to the King early on were fine, I think Chomps might not really make the comments as much as wolf because Chomps would want town to be killing bigger threats than a (maybe Town) King. I need Chomps to post more reads with more depth but I donāt think anything has actually pinged me as off in the ISO quite yet so Iām giving Chomps a Null, Lean Town read due to my lack of confidence there.
My Top Town is Zone, closely followed by Pandora. My Top Wolf is Kelsier??? Genuinely so many null reads (and a few low-ish posters) makes things hard to parse for me.
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iāll disect this later.
VOTE: Amelia
Feel free to, do bare in mind this is a⦠12PM - 4AM wall
donāt worry just pretty sure youāre evil off of it and i just want to know who your partner is
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Spoiler Alert: Itās Meme and you and⦠oh wait I wasnāt supposed to say this out loud.
lockscum
tell me what you think too, hazard
I think itās incredibly silly that Chomps is getting given a pass to vote whoever with 0 justification because āitās Chompsā
How does he go from voting me for ??? reasons to swapping to the wagon Iām voting for
There is no progression whatsoever
At what point does Chompsā behaviour go from āitās Chompsā to āthis is actually alignment indicativeā
Iām just a weak little unseen protective i bring no harm