Last Stand of the Virtuous 5.5 [Jarek Redux] - NIGHT 4 (7/17)

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#961

An issue of skill

#962

Yeah ok fair
good news: someone mightā€™ve gotten a save ig

#963

I have been bled at N1, or I have been made to believe I am bleeding. I have visited Chomps. Here are the possibilities of what could have happened according to my 10-minute research:

  • [Unseen] Fanatic targeted Chomps and bled me. This implies nobody else visited Chomps, because Fanaticā€™s ā€œprotectionā€ (i.e., bleeding) prioritizes non-Unseen.
  • [Blue Dragon] Paladin targeted me directly and made me think I am bleeding. Alternatively, they actually bled me using their single use ability. (The latter implies that Chomps is a member of Blue Dragon.)
  • [Blue Dragon] Alchemist used Molten Potion -which effectively functions the same as Fanatic- and they used it on Chomps.
  • [Hands of Byzantine] Crusader -i.e., Fanatic convert- targeted Chomps. Alternatively, they used their 2S fake-bleed on me. (The latter has a possibility of actually bleeding me.)
  • [Hands of Byzantine] Fortune Teller used Minor Arcana - King of Swords on me to make me think I am bleeding.

ā€¦well, I guess I can cross over Crusader and Fortune Teller.

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#964

Iā€™m not sure what i was expecting out of meme iso itā€™s 24 posts

Besides me thinking the hazard interaction seems unpaired nothing jumps at me as helpful

#965

I did a quickcheck on BD roles, and from what I see none of them have abilities that fake flips. Does this mean that MKP is legit Heroine, or is there a Neutral role that can fake flips?

If MKP is legit Heroine, then why does it say ā€œunless another Heroine comes to beingā€? Under what circumstance could BD get a new Heroine?

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#966

Meme can be fake Heroine with Astrologer (self flip tailor to specifically Heroine) but that still means we nabbed scum. Could also be Maid fakeflipping and meme was Unseen but eh.

BD can get another Heroine if a Squire uses their Rising Star ability

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#967

if anyone was Sentenced yesterday and is able to claim it id say thereā€™s about 95% itā€™s maid

#968

Yeah until then ill just solve as if thatā€™s a scum flip

#969

Dunno / half-forgotten what Sentenced means, but Iā€™m not affected by it. Iā€™m just bled ā€“potentially fakebled.

#970

Sentenced enables the Duke to kill you
Duke is the only one who can kill n1 (i think arcanist might be able to idr if we changed that but thatā€™s still an extra kill and we only have 1 so)

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#971

@Willow @Amelia please detail possible worlds where memeking was false flipped scum kp and was actually something else

#972

I didnā€™t get sentenced, Iā€™m able to claim that much.
I also do have someone who I townread strongly and I know itā€™s a player who others find null so Iā€™ll do an ISO case soon on em.

#973

*reads OP*
Okay, I get where youā€™re coming from. Maidā€™s framer ability requires BD to use CtA at D1 which is a hasty move. Like, not impossible, but I donā€™t really believe it.

(Got the memo on Squire as well.)

Are there any Neutrals that can fake flips?

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#974

nah BD would absolutely use CTA d1

#975

i believe
donā€™t remember if itā€™s day or night

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#976

Oh yeah. Itā€™s starting to get back to me.

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#977

not during the night i believe
iā€™d double-check tho but im playing mtg so

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#978

i can do this

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#979

Okay, but in that case should we be wary of Maid? If it exists and CtA was used at D1, then MKP is most likely Unseen, no?

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#980

Done above though i didnt account for HoB making it look like BD

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