best example rn is merc
bastard was a bit of a mistake because I wanted to make sure pretender could be a thing
so what youāre saying is that we need apoc to be in the game
can we sub him out for apocryphal
new tavernkeeper night ability:
ātarget a player. they are banned for the next 24 hoursā
thinking
wow this was a good post
The correct answer to 3rd parties is to use something like a BotC Outsider instead
the correct answer balance-wise to 3rd parties is to not use 3rd parties
the correct answer to 3rd parties is, however, to make sure they actually engage with the game instead of just sitting around
Survivor is the best 3P (Ignorirng all of the better ones.). It doesnt affect balance, 1 or a million of them nothing changes with the setup (except they decide who wins). Their win con is deceptively simple, for they must not cross the mafia (assuming they donāt claim surv) and not aggrivate the town (assuming they donāt claim surv.), while at the same time appearing not wolfy and not towny either (except if they claim surv). They donāt kingmake either (if they opt not to) (and theirs not a critical mass of them) and more importantly theyāre fun to play (if you like clicker games).
in other words the most balanced 3ps are the ones that have a wincon identical to one of the other two parties
really
oh lmao
survivor that kills itself if it would kingmake
what do you mean thatās just an extra mafia member
well no but they DO have to have won/died by endgame to avoid kingmaker
scorned is a good example of āhas to engage with the gameā b/c it directly interacts with executions and wants to drive them
and it canāt kingmake because it sets its sights on who it wants to kill the previous night
the only downside (other than ratio fuckery n other 3p shit) is that it ~needs a flip disguise in higher mech games, which results in bastard games that not everyone likes
scorned has also been repeatedly said to be the only good 3p so
Are you sure about that
iād say Inquisitor gets relatively close to being ok but only relatively because
- it still mostly interacts with mech and not actual socials
- KP imbalance
- can sometimes just randomly win
which is significantly less issues than every other neutral but
Positive. Never been more sure in my life. Add survivors to every setup.
(I am shitposting)