Library of Ruina FM - Day 2 (15/17)

That last line is a nice catch that I hadn’t considered (I was going to leave until I woke up but I got bored in the waning hours of my shift)

More the better to burn the book of the library first and get any info on general mechanics before we go burning other books

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@ACE it took me like less than a second to realize your flavor after you claimed that. It doesn’t really mean anything because for all I know you could e looked it up and fake claimed it but it makes me happy I still remember stuff

You other stuff reads good as well independent of that so you get a day pass for today

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Ditto’ing Chomps. tutuu’s disposition is admirable in this regard.
Hey tutuu, I hope this will make the game easier for you: I am Town.

I could’ve sworn the hosts gave Mafia fake claims in PMU…
*checks my own Role PM from PMU*
Okay, it was not given directly, but I distinctively remember a time when Mafia were discussing how to justify our roles as their Town counterparts, so it probably happened in Mafia Chat then. (Which I have left, because I don’t archive past games’ servers.)

I find it funny how these posts were posted 12 minutes from each other. I don’t remember anyone townreading me because of tutuu though, because I remember Leafia being the only other person to townread me, and she has her own reasons to do so.

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No, and I don’t plan to.
(My initial response was: “My answer is the same answer you would give to [Have you read every ~470 posts yet?” but I found that rude, so I changed my answer into one that directly addresses the question instead.) (Why am I telling this, you ask? Because your question irked me, and the negative emotion did not fade away. It feels less than performative.)

Given that the initial gimmick of this setup is that most flips are not fully shown, I highly doubt the Book of Library will suddenly remove said gimmick.

Because the amount of mech in PMU was bonkers, and Mafia was OP given their high KP.
I have a feeling that we might have another instance of “Mafia will steamroll Town”.

…I say the following with no consideration of my idolism towards Achromatic.
@Achromatic, Gun-To-Head: What is my alignment?

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I’m online again and I was drafting this post among myself. Haven’t read the last ~10 messages yet while I was doing that, but here it is. I also spent some time colour coding this. (Edit to be reorganized)

Scumread

  • snow
    Why have I heard surprisingly little of them? They have 12 posts in the thread and all of them are one liners. I don’t like that.
  • tutuu
    Wolf. My prefered vote for today. There is not even a single post from him that I’ve read as town. “Just play mafia” is ridiculously condescending to the point that I have no choice but to believe it’s wolf shutting down discussion.
  • Spiritualized (Italy + lilith)
    I really expected two players to be saying more things about the game but neither of them really have. This gives me a slight wolflean. Other than that, nothing I have particularly disliked.
  • iamagummybear
    I? Idk call it fatigue early in the morning but I really struggled to come up with an opinion for this. Something about these posts bugs me. I guess it’s the “not committing to reads”(I don’t know if that’s something they often do) and also then proceeding to say nothing about mechanics(something that I have already expressed, I am not a fan of). Another wolf lean.
  • Frostwolf
    I actually remember zero posts from him. Except that one giving pity townlean(I mean, I guess I am doing that too)- I also see… lots of discussions started but never ended? My instincts strongly say wolf. Even though there isn’t really much evidence for it.

Townread

  • Wazza
    Wazza has acted somewhat towny, and I believe their entire confusion spiel about the book burning. Also I have a bias over here because Wazza was the other player focusing on mech, which I think is quite reasonable actually. Despite what I have been told.
  • Zone
    Townread for the frustration displayed at the start of the game. And in general, with the way he has communicated. Also he knows about prescripts, which is something I think only one evil would have if they even do.
  • Ace
    Townread again, she has claimed something about her rolecard that makes me trust her. Though more importantly I think she gives a much clearer vibe than anyone here
  • FreezinIce
    He’s been doing good stuff, I mostly agree with the reads and also has both discussions about mech and socials. Like a good townie should!
  • Rue
    Imagine all the reads I got from Leafia except if I wasn’t voted. Townlean.
  • Chomps
    Despite lacking a single post longer than a line(17 inch monitor), I think I have a good picture of Chomps’s opinions. Which is good enough for me to lean town!

Nothing Important/Neutral:

  • Pandora
    Zero posts in this topic. Okay.(Opinion: I think zero posts is less suspicious than 12 posts, but not by much. A wolf would be online for SOMETHING at least.)
  • Jarek
    From my experience, it really is best to leave any reads on Jarek alone untill later. Though giving me more town than wolf if that means anything.
  • SultanOfSlam
    Prize for most positive player :D, I am unfortunately a pit of negativity and do not like that. Again, another gut wolf lean. But only mildly.
  • Achromatic
    Inoffensive takes, but why is he so defensive of tutuu? Wolflean just for that really, otherwise I have nothing else to say. Yet.
  • Leafia
    In the stripped club… straight up “sussing” it… and by it let’s just say… heh… my OMGUSsy. That aside, while she’s got a very low post count, every post HAS said something so to my dismay I will leave this as an neither town nor wolf for now.

Words that you should ignore:
Timber. D’aat. Sever. Palace. Nightfall. Ramen. Twelve. Apple. Beetle. Thunder. Trust. Break. Umbrella. Keter. Aqua. Fiber. Dumbbell. Zephyr. Chitin. Axiom. Sunglasses. Fox. Timer. Question. Elephant. Spices. Boron.

Anyway I’m going to make oats and be back pls give opinions till then.

I’m holding myself back from reiterating my lists of reads, an issue I’ve had is getting too tunneled and refusing to reeval and influencing others too much. When I’m accurate it’s good but when I’m not it’s not. So it feels difficult but I’m holding back. I want to keep an open mind to completely reverse my reads if needs be.

I think things are going fine so far. The amounts of people playing sensibly are more than the amount of possible wolves, imo, so we definitely have a number of sensible villagers.

If things start getting off track I will intervene again, but imo things are good rn and I’m more likely to hurt than help further. So I shall watch for a bit.

and before I forget:

VOTE: tutuu

“Just play mafia” = “shut down discussion”

This is not a sane interpretation of what I said!

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Like I told Freeze, there’s a thing called ISO.

Honestly, do wolves use often “I don’t remember someone’s posts” as excuse of not reading at all?

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I did use that feature to read your posts! Me not remembering posts from you before I read that is me saying “I do not believe he said anything that would have garnered attention(bad thing)”

Regardless, that is the only thing that line would achieve. I get that you desired social discussion but just everything about that message set off red flags in my eyes.

Suppose Gummy is vibing yeah

I am defensive of tutuu because i caught them in my last game with them day 1 almost right away and their vibe feels very different in comparison to there. If i didnt speak up I wouldn’t be doing my job tbh

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I’m fine with that explanation!

How much experience do you have with tutuu? I ask because i dont think your read on them feels good. ‘Just play mafia’ doesnt feel loaded to me for example.

At that point in time, I was simply being playful. The vote was a mere jest; a vote with no thoughts.
(Then it became a grudge vote.)

As someone who doesn’t remember anything from tutuu’s playstyle, I find this amusing. I don’t remember how he played in the past, but I like how he’s currently playing. He’s giving off Town Leader vibes; a position I am averse to, due to the equally high level of risk that comes with it.

*reads this*
*fails to comprehend*
*fails to empathize*
*moves on*

…bah. Achro is probably Town. This flow feels towny, and I agree with his last sentence.

My current issue as of moment of writing is that I have no scumreads whatsoever, which sucks because I remember saying that very statement when I recently randed Mafia, so I have no way to distinguish my present Town self with my past Mafia self.

Eugh, I’ll just continue catching up with the thread.

It is also the type of read i think comes from town a lot tbf.

Absolutely none, I am just using my general experience with people.