I have being casually swearing all the time
hey i just saw this
honestly this is an extremely mean-spirited “joke” and im shocked that you thought this was okay to say.
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I don’t think I can pull this off again. I joined up hoping for a town role and saw I was mafia and resigned myself to losing
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Hmm maybe expecting to lose is the key to winningstrong text
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I mean, on pokemon xros wars…
Im not going to townread emotion anymore, i should have stopped a long time ago. i feel pretty uncomfortable around it, and i dont want to antagonize people further who represent being upset. part of me is just also used to it being such a towntell, almost a trust tell, back from where i played years ago, but im starting to realize the environment was pretty different - wolves got heavily oscatrized back there and not villagers, and then i went on a row of like 30-40 games getting free correct townreads every game and people being stunned how i got these accurate reads and i formulated a habit to see it as a trust tell because it genuinely worked as a trust tell. but its a cheap shot, and the environment are different, its no longer a de facto trust tell (it never should have been).
ideally i just learn how to be a little colder. i think the ability to be cold is useful in a mafia game, u dont need to walk on eggshells around people. part of me is also scared of conflict and of people becoming hysterical and screaming at me, and me feeling powerless, but thats also probably from the past when i was i was a child and ill-equipped to deal with it. think as a stable adult now i have the tools to deal with it and not feel like im at the mercy of others. i should communicate more often the things that make me uncomfortable and draw a line and cease communication if it makes me uncomfortable. i am scared of showing emotion myself in mafia games because i used to be really bad at it, i was heavily AtEing every game, and i felt guilty about getting townread off of it, so thats why i dont rly communicate if i feel uncomfortable in mafia games, but i should start doing it more often. I did it a little bit this game, ideally i get the hang of it. i want to hit the right balance of the way i react, i dont want to be too reactionary and lash out myself in response, but i also dont want to be a pushover and just suck it up when people cross my boundaries. Balance in the middle would be perfect
Im theoretically capable of completely disregarding it and steeling my heart (had a player once self-vote and ate in response to me scumreading them, i accused them of faking their emotion, they said they’re disgusted by me and referenced a previous post of theirs where they shared they had self-harming thoughts in the past over how theyre treated in a mafia game and said im making those feelings resurface because im accusing them of faking their frustration (meaning, theyre having self-harming thoughts now again), i briefly considered they could be town but then pushed through and found them as mafia despite that (i just considered mental illness and solved from there, wolves could also have these things) and scanned them during the night and killed them the next day, they were mafia. This is not exactly a common occurance lol, i just know that im capable of locking in and being relentless and disregarding it, it was during champs and i wanted to win more than anything, it was just a really taxing experience. but i can learn how to be. I kinda have to if i wanna keep playing mafia
I can and should also soften my approach in how im accusing people of being mafia. I cant both have my cake and eat it. Im used to aggressively calling people wolves for little to no reasons in order to try to see their reactions, but then its not fair if im sensitive in response to their reactions, im kind of asking for an aggressive reaction. So i should just have a much softer approach when im on the offensive and suspecting people, as long as im tame and reasonable about it, i think i should also reasonably expect a tame reaction, and id be in the right to fight back against an overreaction
Okay, i feel happy monologuing and working through my thoughts
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we will both be town in the mountainous game and curb stomp the wolves
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And y’know, they can’t scream at you, not around here. They can yell for sure, but if they try to scream then bad mod things happen to them.
So hold the mod stuff close to your heart! Let its warmth fill you!
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I apologise if I contributed that’s all I can say on this matter because I felt like I did a little bit and I did not like it
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I think you had glimmers of genuinely brilliant play, it just seemed like you didn’t believe in your reads and there were times I couldn’t follow your thought process because you held things too close to your chest.
It’s a team effort, sharing your reads and pooling them with others is how you build a towncore. Try to find what makes sense and ask people you trust to see if their thoughts resonate with you. I’ve found that it’s very rare that a wolf will put forth thoughts on the gamestate that I mindmeld with and sharing and discussing reads like this is how you box wolves out of the game.
It’s hard to put into words but yeah. I agree that ATE is a very sharp double edged sword, I think I mentioned it earlier that losing to ATE hurts really badly which is why unless I’m absolutely sure about it I dont make those reads
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Not that that was the point of it in your post but, y’know, if anyone pulled that Implying I Want To Cut Myself shtick on here they’d get a mod warning faster than they could say-
okay that joke is definitely too off-color to make, never mind
(I didn’t actually have a joke)
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Building on this, sharing reads in a frank way was caused me to come around to the fact that Rue was a wolf and we almost wagoned her out d2.
It’s a powerful tool, townies working together can make sense of the gamestate a lot easier than them working individually
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Yeah. I mean, like, I think it’s just kinda a meta that develops that you gotta learn like anything else.
I, for one, don’t think it’s necessarily gullible or weak-willed to townread emotion — in a lot of metas, recent FoL included, strong emotion has been statistically more likely to be shown by villagers! Faking emotion is complicated and involved, you have to find triggers for it, track the emotional progression, keep all your posts in-line with it, it’s a complicated simulation of mind, all for something that isn’t mandatory and might not work. Harder for a low-effort wolf.
Obviously, only you know the source of your thoughts, but from the outside I think you’ve been fairly reasonably responding to incentives and are just lagging behind a bit on updating.
I think the most important thing with emotional fakery is to really examine the situation the player would be in as wolf and see if any parallel, similar-type emotions would exist that they could be drawing on. And if they could be mimicking the emotion of a past towngame, that’s another big one.
I don’t actually know how to sort emotion independently outside of those and need to get better at it…
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Never trust May emotions though ^_^
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Obviously. She has an active tumblr account you know!
Wasn’t fake in my case but still it should be kept out of the game
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If possible
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Idk about that self-harm thing though that’s like way too far
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This game is LITERALLY making me play Ruina!!!
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