I mean the harm from choosing a wolf, not the harm of misusing the ability in general in the way you say here which would be extremely difficult to pull off unless we just give it to someone randomly
okay but you conveniently ignored the main part about her being town
like look at what she has posted this game and tell me why she can’t be the wolf that benefits from getting this ability
is she less able to use it than some other people as a wolf? maybe. is she polarized? also maybe, but you and zone seem to be trusting her inherently for no reason which is really throwing me
like is “leafia is polarized” here supposed to mean you are already townreading her? if so i’d love to know for what although i am already confident i would not believe it is genuine
I can’t lol that’s my point is that it’s too early in the day to figure out Leafia’s alignment
But she is polarized and will be caught quickly if she’s a wolf
I’m not trusting her implicitly, I’m trusting that she won’t be a problem in the future
I think you are viewing this vote as something anti-wolf and chance to screw one over, whereas they see it as something more potentially anti-town that can nerf town pr.
“This player is a good candidate if town and lesser evil if wolf” is a pretty decent status quo
I’m not like saying we absolutely stick with Leafia, I expressly left the door open for tutuu to clarify their mech and generate more content - and also left the door open for Leafia to produce more content as she’s polarized, but the current situation is if we had to pick someone right now gth Leafia
Yes, this is one of the reasons I believe it to be a scum ability
I do actually think I just don’t vocalize a lot
This is possibly an issue but I find that people don’t harass me about things when I don’t elaborate
Like my suspicion that wolves get a bonus beyond “nothing happens” is speculation, but it is undeniable that it’s also just a thing that we’d have rather not happened or had to deal with today
Distracts from discussion, is a private vote and can nerf a PR, possibility for more smoke & mirrors schenanigans
Having experienced a game where I was Mafia being paired with a slanking partner, I am heavily against the idea of “people who post one-liners usually flips Town”.
My “personal method of reading people” was never based on kindness or logic to begin with, so yeah: Of course it is uncharitable. (Hence why I told him to not look into it.)
I don’t know why you say he has given the most content out of everyone either, since I stopped remembering what he has done past the minor dispute with Daeron.
She mentioned in P#236 that it’d be randomized.
To reiterate my past self in P#352: I heavily doubt this is the case, as I believe that a Guardian Angel’s win condition is tied to the win condition, and not to some Passive ability that could be transferred over to another player.
I was about to say to leave Ranta alone for being disruptor can do good, then I read further down about the unique win condition that changes depends who roleblocks Ranta that night…
I don’t know guys but this entire situation just feels off to me lol. It reminds me of the day 1 mechanic in anni over on MU which allowed for players to vote for one player to become immune to death until after ITAs were over on day 2. And the choice for that target was stifled by people echo chambering each other to choose alexa just because she always dies on night one. Rather than choosing someone who people actually thought was town. I was worried about this and so were a few others, and I myself posited that while alexa does die a lot, she wasn’t actually towny and it’s probably a mistake to vote her. But I wasn’t towny enough myself to get people to vote for me or to get someone I townread voted. So she ended up getting it and was mafia
This is how I feel about the Leafia situation and the mechanic we are voting for in this game. There are a lot of parallels. We are voting Leafia for an OOG reason (she won’t be able to use whatever buff she gets very well as a wolf - the equivalent in anni being “alexa dies n1 a lot as town”) which is also silly because she will have a wolf team to discuss actions with. We aren’t voting someone we actually think is town. It doesn’t matter if we catch a wolf we vote in with this later because the damage we know of will stem from not getting the utility of putting it on a villager, not not killing the wolf on a later date. And I think the alternative - tutuu - is in my position in that game with respect to not being towny enough but knowing he’d be the better choice
and yes i am just assuming tutuu is town here, but if i have to choose between two people i don’t townread i am choosing the one who says they will be able to gain a mechanical benefit from it
