Millennium Theory - Anomalies Victorious

[diafiasco]

i’m gonna assume the goose is lying bc otherwise they are just dead from anticlaim lol

[diafiasco]

goes through everything btw

[May]

And if hypothetical Ranta sided town in 13v3v1, it’d be 14v3. That’s ridiculous. I don’t believe in this role without strong wolf countera

[diafiasco]

whatever, uninteresting

[May]

I think like 1 claim max we have RN is true and I don’t even know which

[diafiasco]

Anyways, I am going to pitch myself as a countervote to picking Tutuu. You should only vote Tutuu if you believe he is town, and if you are waiting for mech to exonerate him, you are probably going to be taken on the ruse cruise

Here are true facts about me, Dia Fiasco:

1. I am a day neighborizer and have already acted. Who I added doesn’t matter, but if my hood is impure wolves already know about it.

2. If I have a night action, it provides zero utility to the wolf team, making any trade +EV for town

3. The wolves cannot use my action on D2 without adding themselves to MY neighborhood.

4. Criteria 2 on the anticlaim is “ They are attempting to use an ability of the specified category TONIGHT.” This is a day action, meaning wolves cannot score more than 1 point on me.

5. I am townier than Tutuu

[Zone_Q11]

@CRYBABY_UNDERDOG

@Zone_Q11

17 players. If you are the only Neutral party, then that’d be… 13v3v1, which could lead to either a 14v3 or a 13v4. That is… so swingy.

It’s especially swingy if tutuu is telling the truth and can pelt a wolf with the mind boggle

Assuming tutuu is Town who simply craved for the soft red check very badly, whilst also fumbling his response to Arctic’s question…

Eh… If v!tutuu can pull off a red check, then I wouldn’t say the swing of the game increases. Swing is imbalance of the setup, and I think that a “soft red check” doesn’t bring that much favor for Town.

However, that’s only if tutuu is Town to begin with, and -for reasons I have stated in P#363- I don’t have any reason to trust tutuu yet.

@Geewa

i’m pretty sure by meta she constantly claims outrageous bullshit

Listen, as someone who hosted FAM6 and saw the stunts she pulled off there, I get you.

However, her claims -down to her flavor- seem too genuine and consistent for me to ignore.

@Daeron

we MAYBE have a 12-3-1 with an adversarial neutral

…just for confirmation, did you mean 12v3v1v1?

@CRYBABY_UNDERDOG

I guess w!tutuu can just lie
But then like
So w!tutuu knows he can’t come back without a name right
So he comes back with a name
And now he’s forced to either misexe a townie and then die the next day
Or buss one of his teammates

Do realize that what he is promising is a soft red check; not a hard red check.

If he is wrong, then he can simply blame on the fact that his “method of soft red check” was wrong.

[CRYBABY_UNDERDOG]

@Anonygoose

Think jareks opening posts were objectively awful and seen them so similar things as mafia and struggled to see May’s logic

Therefore VOTE: Zone

Am I stupid why did goose vote zone here when the post was about jarek

[Daeron]

@Zone_Q11

…just for confirmation, did you mean 12v3v1v1?

… 13v3v1 I mean
I can count I swear (lying)

[Daeron]

I am awaiting the day we get sucker punched by two neutrals in a game when this forum has essentially weeded their existence out, nevermind multiple, but I will continue to assume 1 neutral max

[diafiasco]

VOTE: May

Hazard wagon has no juice I’m no fool

[diafiasco]

obviously this wagon formation is poop but maybe we can put actual numbers on someone besides tutuu (who we probably shouldn’t vote if she receives the Big Prize$

[Frostwolf103]

You are giving the vote to Tutuu?

[iamagummybear]

This doesn’t fit with my mental model of her play, since to even know it was in the OP, she would have had to read it before I asked.

I’ll drop it for now, since I’ve been wrong on her playstyle before and don’t want to fall into tunnels yet.

[Frostwolf103]

I was wondering when you correct it

[Zone_Q11]

@diafiasco

Also reckoning with the WIFOM that is “is 22 really that stupid to do the exact same shit again as wolf and hope the multiple people who played that game have severe memory loss”

FWIW, I don’t remember much from Wiretapper aside from getting a message from a Mafia saying something like “You killed tutuu. We will avenge him by killing you.” and then dying on Night 2. (I remember this, because I remember I was confused how the heck they mentioned tutuu, before remembering that tutuu was a dead player, and thus unaffected by the restrictions.)

(…wait. “Avenge tutuu”? Was I the cause of tutuu’s death in that game?)

…my point is: Yes. I genuinely have severe memory loss about that game.

@tutuu

Its basically a red check sans “host lowkey lying” and “lets design a customly built mafia role specifically to fuck with this town role that ended up randed to tutuu”, imo

Im characterising it as “soft” because its an experimental closed setup game, not because my informaiton is ambiguous

I would unambiguouslu have a red check as far as my information is concerned, like its not a gamble on my part

I just don’t have control over the unknown mafia abilities, no knowledge of how custom they are, of how experimental the game is

Let me get this straight.

1. You are claiming to have a role of which its design appears to fit the Mafia team.
2. IDK what the thing is about experimental closed setup, so I will ignore that part.
   But essentially, you will get a red check if you get the Mind Boggle ability.
3. You won’t have control over the Mafia abilities that you will get.

…see, if you had only said (1) and (2), then I’d have chalked it up as information hazard; a matter I mentioned in P#350, which you didn’t respond to.

However, what exactly do you mean by (3)?
Why wouldn’t you be able to control (i.e., use) the Mafia ability you’d get from the Mind Boggle?

[Frostwolf103]

VOTE: May

In the dogpile we trust

[May]

To come up with an idea for what it could be she’d have to check the town and mafia faction names

[May]

I’m polarized and obvtown

[Frostwolf103]

(And to explain why I didn’t vote Ranta, Tutuu or Zone…not appealing for a reason to dogpile there)